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12-09-2012, 04:09 PM
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Hardyvan123
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Originally Posted by livewell68 View Post
The league is not getting any wider in scoring. As for Crosby's averages being higher in the last 2 season, he played a total of what 67 games or whatever it is?

If he had done that over an entire season of even maintained that pace in the same season over 67 games then I would say that he has hit a new level.

That's not the case though. It's much easier to have 1.65 PPG in stretches of 20 and 40 games but to do that over the course of a season is as hard as it gets. As displayed in the " By the Numbers" section by CzechyourMath, Crosby stretches aren't even close to being the best by players not named Lemieux or Gretzky.

Crosby is not getting any younger.

As for the linemates argument, it's a moot point. Crosby defenders will always claim how Crosby has terrible linemates, great players elevate the play of their linemates. Crosby benefits from having Malkin as the 1b option since opposing teams can't focus their attention just on Crosby and this Crosby a bit more room on the ice. Just in comparison, Jagr (outside of the Lemieux years) never once had that novelty to play with. Before you jump at Francis, I say that Francis was never going to scare opponents in thinking he was going to pot a hattrick or 5 point game against them.

That shouldn't be an excuse. Jagr had some seasons in which he had worse linemates (1998-99, 1999-00 and 2005-06) being great examples of this in which he put up amazing numbers.
Francis was a pretty use full offensive player before he ever played with the Pens.

Sure Sid has Malkin as 1b but man his line mates are horrific.

Sid's pace in 11, despite his line mates, and the fact it was 2011 was simply flat out amazing, your effort to downplay it is embarrassing to say the least.

Let's take a closer look at that team.

Sid leads the team in scoring despite playing in exactly half of the teams games with 41.

Letang's (age 23) 50 points in 82 games is 16 behind Sid.

Kunitz (Crosby's line mate) has 48 in 66 games.

Malkin is out close to half the year.

There is little doubt that if Sid doesn't get concussed that his season would ahve been spectacular in historical terms and absolute ones as well.

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