CBA Thread, Daniel Bryan Edition: The lockout is (tentatively) over!
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12-10-2012, 03:08 PM
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Maybe when telling others to discuss and look at facts, you should stop trying to incorrectly state (or at least imply) that the only difference between the two are a 3 year contractual term limit. Connected, The PA also did not accept any meaningful variance limit.
I implicitly noted those issues were obvious bargain chips and placed (not a fact) next to it. Pay attention.
The PA also did not accept a 10 year CBA ", and in Fact for nearly their purposes, didn't really change much from their previous proposal, they want the option to opt out at 6 years but locking in the players for 8. (And I realize the Ownerseant a owner only opt out at 8 years on their 10 year CBA, but again, that's not as close as one wants to imply.
There was also the newly added issues of escrow limits, Mid-Level Cap exceptions, and compliance buyouts, all being ways for the players to receive more than 50% of HRR through the back door ON TOP of the make whole money.
And sorry, but eventually, either side is going to draw a line in the sand, especially when goalposts keep on being moved. Say Owners agree to a 7 year contact term limit, all of a sudden Don says 'we're so close, no way you don't come off your variance limit now'. Owners then reluctantly say fine well also to for a relaxed variance limit. Then Don says, we even closer, we can't let this thing to off the rails based on transitional issues and CBA term! The way you are suggesting them negotiate is overly simplistic, and a good way for the owners to get fleeced. From most accounts, it sounds as a good deal of owners already felt they were being fleeced, but Tananbaum etc. out their neck on the line, basically made what was probably a negotiating snafu in putting out what was already an offer stretching the limits and Don told the players to go for more. Bettman and company have made some mistakes these negotiations, no doubt. I don't feel the presser on Thursday however was one.
You are speculating that is what Fehr will do. We know for a fact the owners once again ran from the table when they didn't get what they want. You aren't doing a deal by running away in a tiff every damn time.
That's not how deals get made. Sorry.
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