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Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
Don’t Panic: The Wii U Naysayers Are Wrong:
Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
Wii U: Third Parties, Nintendo, and Why it Might Dominate Next Gen:
Originally Posted by RandV View Post
I would say this is the key point:

While it's looking at a great start I had some concerns for Nintendo's continued success in the long term if Sony and Microsoft's new consoles would be powerful enough to push Nintendo out of the AAA multi-platform genre again, but it looks like that isn't going to be the case.

That said, looks like the predictions I was making 5 years ago are going to come true. People have been complaining about the direction Nintendo took with the Wii for a long time, believing that Nintendo 'abandoned' the core gamers for casuals in making the Wii and that what they really should have done is make a Gamecube 2 that would be on par with the PS3 and 360.

While it would have made a few people happy overall I've always said that this would have been a disaster. The N64 lost to the Playstation. The Gamecube lost to the PS2 and Xbox. A Gamecube 2 would have been more of the same, probably more so even if you consider the loss Sony and Microsoft were selling their consoles for at the start. Nintendo's just a game company, it doesn't have a mega corporation backing it up that can afford to lose billions before they start making a profit. All they would have accomplished was another 3rd place finish and a further decline into obscurity, coming closer and closer to following Sega's fate.

No, I've been saying from the early going of the Wii that what Nintendo really needed to do was differentiate themselves from Sony and MS and make lots of money. They were just going to lose again if they tried to play the same game as the Playstation and Xbox, so they had to change the game. Some long time fans would be lost in the process, but as long as they're making lots of money off of a new fanbase (casuals) they could re-invest these profits into their next console to win them back.

What Nintendo needed was to build up a war chest, and the Wii accomplished that. You think Nintendo would be able to invest in better OS services, a modern console multiplayer system, a fancy tablet controller, exclusive software deals, and to sell the console at what must be a lower profit margin allowing for a stronger system, if they didn't make so much money from the Wii?
Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
Yeah I would agree that is the key point. As long as the Wii U is getting good versions of all the big games that's what really matters. The PS2 thrived even though the Xbox & Gamecube versions of games were better.
Originally Posted by Jill Sandwich View Post
The engines are scalable, that doesn't mean the games themselves are. Gears of War is not on the iPhone.

Actually, they'll probably stay relatively close in terms of detail since the WiiU has a decent GPU. The problem is they won't be able to work on the most basic levels of many games if they require a lot of on-screen routines. It's already cropped up as a problem today, I can only imagine when it's trying to do something that relies on heavy levels of AI routines and everything that comes with that; open world games especially.

I also don't think either Sony or Microsoft are too worried about catching up to the Wii, because of their extreme advantage in software attach.
The above articles talk about the scalability and how publishers will be able to put their games out on the Wii U, PS4 & 720.

Originally Posted by KesselForSelke View Post
Umm, where are all these games for the Wii U? It seems there's a bunch of year old, half baked ports from 360/PS3, a bunch of crap, and Mario and Zombi U

Also the 3DS lineup still blows ass (Just not as bad as the Vita)
The 'launch window' games are listed here:

Game Wiki
Assassin’s Creed III
Wiki Review Ubisoft
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition Wiki Review Warner Bros. Interactive
Call of Duty: Black Ops II Wiki Review Activision
Chasing Aurora Web Review Broken Rules
Darksiders II Wiki Review THQ
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two Wiki Review
Disney Interactive
EA Sports FIFA Soccer 13
Wiki Review
ESPN Sports Connection Review
Game Party Champions Wiki Review Warner Bros. Interactive
Just Dance 4 Review Ubisoft
Little Inferno Wiki Review Tomorrow Corp.
Madden NFL 13
Review EA
Mass Effect 3
Review EA
Nano Assault Neo Wiki Review Majesco
NBA 2K13 Wiki Review 2K Sports
New Super Mario Bros. U Wiki Review Nintendo
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge Wiki Review Nintendo
Nintendo Land Wiki Review Nintendo
Rabbids Land Wiki Review Ubisoft
Scribblenauts Unlimited Wiki Review Warner Bros. Interactive
Sing Party Review Nintendo
Skylanders Giants Wiki Review Activision
Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed
Wiki Review SEGA
Tank! Tank! Tank!


Namco Bandai
Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
Wiki Review Namco Bandai
Transformers Prime
Wiki Review 2K
Trine 2: Director's Cut
Review Frozenbyte
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013 Review Ubisoft
Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
Review Tecmo Koei
Wipeout: The Game 3
Review Activision
ZombiU Wiki Review Ubisoft
Launch "Window" Titles

This is the full, current list of games planned to launch for the Wii U between Day 1 (November 18) and the end of March 2013 – the "launch window." Some titles are scheduled only for North America at this time, and those have been noted throughout.[1]

The company has yet to commit to specific dates for all of these titles. Check the appropriate wiki for updates as new information arises.
Wiki Publisher
007 Legends
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Ben 10: Omniverse D3
Bit.Trip Presents: Runner 2 Future Legend of Rhythm Alien Aksys Games
Cabela’s Dangerous Hunts 2013 (North America only) Activision
Family Party: 30 Great Games Obstacle Arcade D3
Funky Barn (North America only) Ubisoft
Game & Wario Wiki Nintendo
Jeopardy! (North America only) THQ
Jett Tailfin (North America only) Maximum Games
LEGO City Undercover Wiki Nintendo
Marvel's The Avengers: Battle for Earth Wiki Ubisoft
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Wiki Capcom
Pikmin 3 (North America only) Wiki Nintendo
Rapala Pro Bass Fishing (North America only) Activision
Rayman Legends Wiki Ubisoft
Rise of the Guardians: The Video Game D3
The Wonderful 101 (North America only)
Wiki Nintendo
Toki Tori 2 Two Tribes
Wheel of Fortune (North America only) THQ
Wii Fit U (North America only) Nintendo
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013 Ubisoft
Zumba Fitness Core (North America only) Majesco
Other Announced Retail Games

This is a list of announced Wii U games that will probably not make the "Launch Window." Please add either an external citation (not Wikipedia!) or a link to the game page on IGN for any games.

Marvel's The Avengers: Battle for Earth
Bayonetta 2 (Platinum Games)
Dirt for Wii U
Dragon Quest X
Game & Wario (Working Title)
LEGO City Stories
Project Cars [2]
Super Smash Bros. "Next"
The Wonderful 101
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Online
Wii U Panorama View (Working Title)
Need for Speed Most Wanted
The Amazing Spider-man

Announced Digital (eShop) Games

1,001 Spikes (Nicalis)
Bit.Trip Presents Runner 2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien (Gaijin Games)
Cloudberry Kingdom (Pwnee)
Marvel Pinball (Zen)
Mutant Mudds Deluxe (Renegade Kid)
Sabre Rider and the Star Sheriffs [3] (Firehazard)
Toki Tori 2 (Two Tribes)
Little Inferno (Tomorrow Corporation)
Chasing Aurora (Broken Rules)

Unofficial/TBA/Rumored Games / Demos

The following game demos were shown in playable/interactive form at E3 2011 and CES 2012.While they were positioned as gameplay concepts, many past Nintendo E3 demo concepts were eventually turned into games and game collections (for example, components of Wii Sports Resort, Steel Diver).

We're also including games that have been suggested or hinted at, but NOT formally confirmed. This includes a game like Metro Last Light, which was shown at E3 2011, but then confirmed to not be actively in development.

Crysis 3 (Electronic Arts)
F1 for Wii U [4]
Medal of Honor: Warfighter [5]
Metro Last Light
Shield Pose
The Legend of Zelda HD
Un-named Bird Demo
Monolift Soft New IP [6]

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