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12-11-2012, 12:07 PM
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What the...?! Are you talking about Kyle Clifford?
"Exception young two-way player"? - Over his career, the Kings have scored 40% of the goals with him on the ice at 5v5. Exceptional two-way players don't spend 1.5x as many shifts digging pucks out of their own net.
"Clutch performer"? - He has 12 goals in 157 games. He scored 45 goals in the OHL over 184 games - he could barely produce at a 20 goal pace
That he does a fantastic job of letting opposing teams skate around him?
He was given the second easiest minutes of all forwards for the Kings last season (only Colin Fraser saw weaker opposition). He started exactly half his shifts in the offensive zone and half in the defensive zone. Despite soft minutes, he was absolutely obliterated in puck possession - the Kings allowed 8 shots more than they took every 60 minutes that Clifford spent on the ice.
He's a useless young player who doesn't do prevent the opposition from taking shots or scoring chances. His "primary drawback" is that you're very likely to get out shot, out chanced, and outscored when he is on the ice.
The problem with "seeing" his value is that while he may do exciting things that make the fans think he has value, there's a reason he got less than 9 minutes per game at even strength. The Los Angeles Kings played 26 skaters in '11-'12 and Clifford came 24th in even strength TOI/g.
He's a dime/dozen thug with great effort and not a lot of skill.
That was funny and I needed the laugh.
Sure looks like someone has an axe to grind.
If he is as terrible as you seem to think that he is then why would the Kings ever bother not only keeping him but have spoken publicly about how valuable he is to the team today and going forward? Why would a team that is overloaded with young two way character types like KC ever place any value on a player like you are suggesting Clifford to be?
They wouldn't. Your liberal use of stats in an effort to try and show that KC is a valuable NHL player for the Kings only shows that once again stats aren't the only way of proving a players value and doubly so when we are talking about character types.
Clutch performer? He has 5 points in 9 playoff games at the NHL level is plus 3 and has drawn 43 penalty minutes while taking 4. He was valuable to the Kings in each of the playoff games that he has appeared in all this while being given limited minutes due to the fact that he is still developing as an NHL player (he did just turn 21 so we are talking about what he has done at the NHL level as a 19 through 20 yo that the Kings felt good enough about to have him go from jrs straight to the NHL) and of course was injured after being run from behind by a cheapshot hack who actually doesnt belong playing in the NHL.
Clifford is a clutch performer and has proven himself to be so by the team who just won the cup and that is at least good enough for me all things considered.
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