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12-11-2012, 02:07 PM
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Joe Cole
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Originally Posted by buddahsmoka1 View Post
I am really wondering if you know what cooking the books means. How on earth is reducing expenditures 'cooking the books?'

Cooking the books means that the budget they present to the public is fraudulent.

Contradiction. What is the difference? Why is it that you support tuition raises, but are against indirect costs such as expecting students to use their own computers? Most students already have computers, this is a good compromise.


The provincial government has informed every single institution that receives public funding that this will be decreased.

And I am not sure what institutions you are talking about, but the computer labs at my university didn't just disappear this year.
I will explain it in plainer terms. The prov gov have an overall budget for everything. If they are in the red, and they recoup a little by cutting somewhere...like...EDU, then they lok like they are making progress. If the school in turn, cannot make ends meet... they do what? Borrow money, and pay interest. They are already $1 billion in the whole (collectively) for this school year. That was before the gvmt cut what was already promised to them.

If universities are public entities, who do you think ends up holding the bag? That's right. Tax payers.

You move it from one column to another, and in the short term, the gvmt looks like they are making headway. That.... is cooking the books.

I prefer honesty. If EDU costs more, charge more.

Basic computing (taking notes etc) is one thing, but scientific, graphic arts, animation, video, CAD... these are not areas which fall under general computing.

For more advanced computing, making students bring in computers is bad for one main reason, loss of productivity. If you are using specific professional grade software to teach a class (not MS Office), and you have 4000 different computers, each which different configurations, each with their own virus', each with their own pirated software...what do you get?

Problems running an efficient class. Problems with the network. All it does is grind everything to a halt. Plus...in a public system, I repeat, the school has to provide an infrastructure. I believe the computer infrastructure, including the network and wireless network are part of it.

As for where it is happening...U de Laval, OCAD, Centennial....the list is long

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