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12-11-2012, 04:15 PM
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NotProkofievian
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Ducked? People ALWAYS say that the competition isn't always the best.
NEWSFLASH: When you destroy every one in your division and have the most title defenses with 16 fights all together, you're bound to get weaker opponents.
And you think that just because the opponents he destroyed are weak, which you're now admitting(yay progress), that doesn't affect his standing or legacy? That doesn't influence the hypothesis that he's somehow beyond everyone else.

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Also, I don't understand how you'd say this after you quoted yourself saying he's the best MMA fighter in history.
So he's the best fighter in history, but your point is that he's overrated? Great.
It's very simple. I say he's at the top of the list with Fedor and GSP filing in just below him. Dana and you and every other Silva knob shiner out there say that he's not even on the list. Like, that's actually what they said. Do you see how your logic here was incomplete and stupid?

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Let him fight Jones. I'll be more than happy about it.
And I suppose it's your opinion that Silva's not ducking by asking for half the UFC to fight jones?

Just a question, do you not think Mayweather was ducking, as well?


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Just because you think the division was weak doesn't mean that he isn't THAT good. You can choose to not give him that credit, but doesn't actually mean he's worse than what some people say.
You just want more proof basically.
Of course. He could be that good. But because the division was weak, and you agreed to that point, it goes further than your last statement.

The proof is insufficient.

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1) I don't think any of the guys you mentioned are better wrestlers than Sonnen or Hendo, and most importantly, they're not bigger than them or A.Silva.

2) According to GSP's own words he doesn't consider himself strong on the ground game, but I guess you know more than GSP about GSP. GSP was able to fight a perfect fight versus weaker wrestlers. He was also incapable of fighting a perfect fight versus Stand up artists. The point isn't that GSP can't fight a perfect fight, point is he has no choice but to do that if he wants to win.
1.) This will be my last reply to you because of **** like this. The point was that just because Hendo has an Olympic Silver, and Sonnen has a world university Silver that they're better at wrestling for MMA. Koscheck was a Division 1 national champion, and was simply outwrestled by GSP. Do you know why? Because GSP has integrated wrestling into MMA, and coupled it with BJJ ability that none of those guys have. But feel free to ignore this point, like you always have.

2.) According to Silva's own words, GSP, and BJ Penn are the greatest fighters of all time.


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Sure, it did, but can't say I'm surprised it zoomed over your head.
No, it was a pathetic attempt at ****-talk and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Actually, I never said there was no game plan to beat A.Silva, maybe if you weren't busy trying to come up with lame insults you'd realize that.
I said GSP needs to do his usual quick jab, circle circle, leg shot, circle circle, shoot. Keep him down and lay mainly harmless but annoying punches without exposing himself to submissions. He needs to do that for 5 rounds.
I simply don't think he'll be able to do so. I think Silva is just too talented to let anybody impose their will without exposing themselves to any danger for 5 rounds.
Add that to the fact GSP would be fighting a much bigger opponent than he's used to. Because of all this, I have very little faith GSP would win. This has been my opinion since the start, it's been that since they entertained the idea of a match up actually.
You think there's a game-plan, and that game plan seems to be exactly what I've advocated, you just don't think GSP can, even though you think he could. And even though all someone has to do is jab, circle, shoot, and not get submitted, you think that A. Silva is on some other list, beyond the other P4P GOATs.

Wow, you sure showed me.

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And no, saying he's invincible is very precise. I don't think he's gonna lose to anybody in his division, if you think it was thin when he came in, you got Bisping at #2 right now so I can only imagine your thoughts. I don't think he'd lose versus GSP because, again, GSP needs to fight the perfect fight and I simply don't think he can do it versus Silva. Could he lose versus Jones though? Absolutely.
This is the ridiculousness of your opinion. You even agree with everything I said, but just say "he can't do it." He can. End of story.

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