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12-13-2012, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale View Post
Malcolm Subban is definitely a bigger factor in winning that than Gaunce. And quite frankly, it doesn't matter how offensive a team is, if a defenseman is getting more points than a forward, than the odds are he's a better player. I'm not questioning Gaunce's defensive game, simply that I don't think he has the offensive skill to become more than a very good third liner.

Do you consider O'Reilly a "very good third liner"? Because Gaunce is pretty comparable as far as what each did during his draft year. PPG on weak offensive teams, all situation players.

Of course it matters how offensive a team is, in general. The environment absolutely factors in. Subban has also played more games.

I'm a big fan of the Gaunce pick. Actually I brought up the upside vs. safe pick argument after the draft. For me, it came down to Aberg or Gaunce, and I think the Canucks went the right way. Reason: You have to build the base of the team first. The base is built with players like Gaunce, the two-way size players that open up room, play in all tough situations, and do the dirty work on the boards and in front of the net. The skill players play on top of this base. Without it, the skill players get boxed out or overpowered. There is no "push" in their play, and stuff dies on the perimeter. It's what we saw vs. teams like LA and BOS. As it so happens, these teams are built with strong bases of talent.

I think Gaunce's upside is as a 2nd line C, and his downside is 3rd line C. He will be an NHLer, which is more than you can say about a few of the picks picked in his area.

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