Is Crosby overrated?
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12-13-2012, 01:40 PM
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no one ever said Gretzky or Lemieux were "all these things"
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sorry, but this is ridiculous.
speed? there are several players i would put ahead of him when it comes to speed/skating
shot? sure, its decent. but not even the best in todays game, let alone HISTORY (hence his one 50 goal season)
vision? he is a good passer with great vision, but so are guys like Thornton, and Sedin.
you said it yourself. "there is nothing he isnt GOOD at". but you know what? i cant think of one area he is really GREAT at. in every category of hockey skills, i can think or make an argument for another player. parody exists amongst players today, just like it does amongst teams.
Agreed that his mystique, legacy, and potential have, to date, outweighed his actual accomplishments on the ice, of which there have been numerous. But you're going the way of the OP (albeit in a way less ridiculous manner) in trying to discredit individual attributes of his game, and by claiming that he isn't at or near the top in those areas, it gives the impression that for him to be rated like other all time greats he'd need to excel in every area. At least that's what I've taken from it.
To further the point, the criticisms seem hair splitting to the point of being false. He's unquestionably one of the best, most skilled skaters in the game. Skating isn't pure speed, it isn't pure acceleration...it's a combination of those components plus agility, edge work, ability to change direction, balance. In that respect, it's hard to think of more than 3 players to put in the conversation with this guy. Having a great shot isn't synonymous with scoring goals, as evidenced many times throughout the game's history. Having a good selection of shots and the knowledge about when to use each one to score is probably more important than being able to "snipe", something Crosby can do pretty well in his own right. No, he isn't Stamkos, but how many players are capable of scoring 50 goals and potting 60+ assists?
You point to his playmaking, but going by raw assist totals, who's ahead of him in the playmaking department? Thornton had 8 more in his peak season. H. Sedin is very gifted. His brother is a fellow Ross winner and linemate (not trying to discredit their achievements, but above a certain threshold, linemates matter). Crosby put up 84 assists in his second season at 19. Thornton had established himself as the premier playmaker in the game when he hit 92 in his 10th season. To clarify, Thornton is an outstanding player; truly elite playmaking ability.
He may be overrated in the sense that the spotlight is continually fixed on him, but scrutinizing his individual attributes and overall ability in comparison to his peers does his peers no favors. People have taken his injury history different ways. I think it's a bit unfair to extrapolate a season's worth of numbers based on ppg at the time of an injury, but with Crosby....consistency hasn't really ever been an issue. His work ethic is probably the best in the game based purely on the information and footage available to us. The guy is a freak that hasn't been able to stay healthy. He suffers from the same type of overrating that Forsberg did/has; i.e. what could have been.
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