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12-14-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scurr View Post
Two rookies on the same line playing significant minutes would normally get eaten up defensively, the twins never did. They've always salvaged a good +/-, even in years with poor goaltending and/or underwhelming offensive production.

I've never heard the argument that the twins were rushed into the league. They had already been dominating men in professional hockey and had at least modest success in the NHL their first season.


Gotcha, so +/- has returned as the defensive standard? Interesting to note that they finished +23 and +14 respectively in a year where their defense was often questioned... Wonder why?



Really? You never heard Tony G go on about how they got rushed and that they should have increased their strength before coming over? He's said more than once.



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Anytime two rookies can come into the league, play on the same line and hold their own it's impressive.


Sure it is. But does that mean that they were NHL average defensively? No.



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The Sedins improved defensively as they got faster and stronger. IMO some of that has eroded over the years as they've been more willing to trade chances. They've gone from average to above average and back imo.


I think you would be hard pressed to have fans outside of the VAN fanbase agree that the Sedins were ever even above average defensively, let alone average when they started out.



Just to be clear: Their ability to keep the puck in the offensive zone and cycle isn't considered defensive prowess is it?

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