Gretzky & Lemieux: impact on stats & awards
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12-14-2012, 10:01 PM
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I would argue that Yzerman surpasses Savard for the 1st team in 1988 in a no Gretz/Mario scenario given his 50 goals and 102 points in only 64 games (pace for 63-65-127). And - having been on the AS team the previous three years (whether it be 2-1-2 or 1-1-2) he likely wins the close race he had with Joe Sakic in 1991 for second place behind former teammate Adam Oates.
That would make Yzerman's AS appearances look like this:
This one is also interesting. Yzerman had a very similar season to Messier, yet Messier won the Hart and 1st team while Yzerman was a clear 3rd in C voting (2nd with Gretzky removal). I wonder if being a postseason all-star in 88 and 89 would change who came out on top.
I've never understood why Yzerman ended up with so few votes for 1992 compared to Jeremy Roenick. LaFontaine had a ridiculous year that year when he was in the lineup (which wasn't often). I'll refer again to the "butterfly effect" of a guy being considered the best going into the year as sort of a vote-flipper that might change results; I could see an alternate 1992 as Yzerman/LaFontaine or the reverse rather than including Roenick.
It's also possible that this chain would give him more votes for his 1992-93 season against Oates, LaFontaine, and Gilmour. But I'm not going to argue anything like a potential jump over those guys because Patty and Gilmour had a significant enough higher number of votes.
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