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12-16-2012, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by livewell68 View Post
Forsberg was a pass first player playing with great linemates.

Taking out 1995-96 for both players (Jagr had 87 assists and Forsberg had 86), we are left with Jagr's 1998-99 season when he had 83 assists (16 more than runner-up Forsberg) playing with Hrdina and Kip Miller all season long.

Forsberg's best assists season is 2002-03 when he had 77 assists playing with Hejduk among others who scored 50 goals.

APG is a very good tool to use but can only skew numbers a bit, especially when a certain player plays far less games than another one.

Crosby played 22 games last year and had 29 assists, very good stats but it means very little to me as this was very short period of time.

Forsberg similarly had 37 assists in 39 games back in 2003-04 and then 13 assists in just 9 games in 2007-08.

Of course their APG will be higher but the more you play, the harder it is to maintain such high numbers.

BTW in those seasons I named for both players, it was Sakic and Malkin that carried those teams, not Forsberg and Crosby.

Other than leading the league in assists 3 times, Jagr was also top 3 another 4 times.

That's 7 times in his career where he was top 3 or better including 2 of his last 3 seasons in the NHL.

As for stretches of games (which is what Forsberg and Crosby are being credited for since they only played less 40 games in some of their best APG seasons), Jagr had better 40 games stretches.

In 1999-00 Jagr had 39 assists in his first 39 games.

In 2000-01 Jagr had 53 assists in his last 45 games.

Those are better stretches than both Forsberg and Crosby ever enjoyed and for longer periods of time.
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