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06-04-2006, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bladoww
Nah these have the flat plastic sole, still very rigid. That's a big reason why I stayed away from the composite stuff as I've heard cases of it breaking or cracking in places. When you said Graf that reminded me of another thing... I am going to be using the RMS screws to mount the frame to the boot - so it's going to be solid as a rock too.

That's just the big issue though, getting these skates at an angle I've been using forever. I can deal with the break-in, but re-learning how to skate... I'd rather keep that to a minimum haha...
I used to mount frames for myself and all my boys before my house got hit by a flood. Then I lost my press machine and all of my tools (It was in the basement).

I wouldn't change the angle if you can help it. Unless the frame is flush with the base of the boot, it will create stress fractures over time (if you are an aggressive skater it can crack sooner rather than later).

You can buy frames that are set at different angles. Ie my Kuzak Pros are about 2-3 millimeters bigger than my Sure Grips.

I suggest calling the frame manufacturers and asking them the difference in the angle. Don't ask the local kid at your closest hockey shop. Most of these guys just pretend to know what they are talking about.

Believe me when I tell you, the angle won't make as much difference as you think. I am hard on my skates and have gone through 10+ pairs in the last 8-9 years. So I am kind of an expert in breaking in new skates.

All of the skates have had different angles, and none of them felt the same as the last pair. However if you are a good skater, you will adjust quickly to the new feel and angle of the frame..the feel of the boot..etc.

Also for the RMS screws, you only need four on the back of the heel.

Most frames have four holes on the heel. So use four screws on the heel and rivets on the front.

The most stress is put on the back of the skate and this is usally where rivets pop from. Also using more rivets will keep the overall weight of each skate down, as the weight of each screw is a couple hundred grams higher than the rivets. This can add up quickly when you are using all screws.

Be sure to have them use copper rivets as they hold better.

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