NHL Lockout Discusion XXXIII: It's the same old song. **MOD WARNING POST 274
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12-21-2012, 04:39 PM
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First of all, there is no high ground. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking there is. No one comes out of this on the high ground. In fact both sides ground levels are lower than they were before this started.
Second of all, there is nothing whiny about this "take it or leave it" offer. The NHL has been negotiating off their own offer since September. 4 months. They have had enough and said this is what you got, if you want it you can take it and we can play. If you don't you can sit there, lose all your money and be poorer no matter what offer you take at the end of this.
This stand still right now is a direct result of Donald Fehr's doing. His sitting on his ass refusing to even acknowledge the current system the league has in place, for the last four months of this negotiations has left us here.
Once again, I am not going to sit here and try to say Gary Bettman is a saint and Donald Fehr is evil. But facts are facts, Donald Fehr pushed just a little to far with the NHL and here we are at a stand still and about to lose another season.
P.S. Those of you who keep saying, "they are too close to lose this season" continue to underestimate just how far the owners are willing to go to prove a point. Everyone talks about how the owners lowball offer to start these negotiations off "galvanized" the NHLPA, well Fehr's push, push, push tactics at the Player-Owner mettings a few weeks ago with the "moderate" owners did the same for their side.
If we are going to have a season, it is going to be because the NHLPA caves and accepts the NHL offer. Based on past actions, the owners and Bettman are done negotiating. Right or wrong.
Well said. Fehr has "negotiated" like someone who doesn't want to work out a deal.
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