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12-26-2012, 09:06 PM
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Hardyvan123
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Originally Posted by livewell68 View Post
Crosby has not been better than Lemieux in their first 7 seasons.
In terms of offense no, but in terms of overall play and impact to his team there is an argument, of course injuries have hurt his case a lot in the last 2 years.


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Quality of linemates among other things have something to do with their team success.
For which player are you referring to? It's not like Sid's line mates are perennial all stars or even average top 6 players for that matter.

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Crosby's first 7 seasons are among the most overrated seasons in recent memory.
Everyone is that over rated by at least someone but why no response to your earlier assertion that Mario was 2x what Malkin and Sid are combined?

Sid's record stands for itself as I pointed out in my post in another thread comparing him and the competition between him and Yzerman.

For the record Sid is 12th in goals, 3rd in assists and 3rd in points among all players in his 1st 7 years.

In PPG he is 5th, 1st and 1st with a 1.40PPG next best is Malkin 1.23.

Mario of course was more offensively dominant being 1st, 2nd and 2nd but didn't have anything close to a 2way game.

Also in Mario's sample there are exactly 3 non Candians in the top 20 goal scoring list, 5,6,7 and 4 guys in the top 20 assists 10,14,16,18.

For points there are 4 guys top 20 (9,10,13,17)

Post lockout it's a much different scene.

Non Canadians on top 20 list overall

Goals 10 players(1,2,8,9,10,13,14,16,17,20)

Assists 8 players (2,5,6,9,11,12,14,20)

Points 10 players (1,4,6,8,9,13,14,16,17,20)

But sure we always hear how the league is watered down as well right?

7 of the possible 1st or 2nd team all star goalie spots are taken by non Canadian players post lockout.

14 of 28 Defense positions as well.

From 85-92 in Mario's 1st 7 seasons the breakdown is 4 Goalies and 9 Dmen.

2 entirely different landscapes to compare, at least you will agree to that?

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