Thread: Value of: Sam Gagner and Ryan Whitney
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12-28-2012, 04:42 AM
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Halpysback
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Originally Posted by nitz View Post
Disagree. I believe that Gagner is easily a 2nd line centre. He's a solid, loyal soldier who works HARD. I don't understand HF's hatred of him. He's a 2nd line centre on most teams, minus the obvious ones like Vancouver and San Jose.
Pretty much every team that has a Gagner level 2nd line center is either trying to upgrade that center or expecting them to develop and improve significantly.

45 point players who aren't big, fast, physical or great defensively don't have a lot of value. He's basically a placeholder for a real 2C. How much would you pay for a placeholder?

Just off the top of my head, the following teams have a clearly better 2C than Gagner

Pittsburgh
Philly
New Jersey
Carolina
Tampa
Boston
LA
San Jose
Vancouver
Washington
Colorado
Dallas
Detroit
St. Louis
Nashville


And the following have 2Cs who are better but not a lot better

NYI
NYR
Toronto (arguable with Bozak but Bozak brings more defensively and is faster)
Montreal
Phoenix
Ottawa (close but Turris has better speed, wrist shot and defensive acumen)
Anaheim (Koivu is declining)
Columbus (Anisimov/Johansen are at his level but Anisimov brings more and Johansen has much more potential)

Only teams where he's a clear cut top 2 C would be

Florida
Minnesota (hoping Granlund becomes elite)
Winnipeg (hoping Schiefele/Burmistrov become elite)
Calgary (horrible center situation Gagner doesn't come close to fixing)
Chicago (Bolland is better but a 3C fixture, only team I can think of who'd actually pay for him).

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