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12-28-2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jagorim Jarg View Post
I can't speak from knowledge of any of the other teams, but the Sedin/Naslund era Canucks first had Ed Jovanovski (who was boneheaded on D but a great puck mover) and Alex Edler (similar to Jovanovski but slightly better and more consistent), each better at puck moving than Dave Ellett.

Still, if any of those teams had a Paul Coffey or a Larry Murphy or a Phil Housley, they'd probably score many more points than they did without those PMDs. Those are examples of franchises succeeding despite having an elite PMD, not because of it. Do you think the Oilers or Penguins would have scored as much without Coffey? Senators without Karlsson?

Do you not think Marcel Dionne eclipses 2000 points if he has Brad Park wheeling the play behind him for a decade?
Dionne did have Larry Murphy for the first 3 years of Murphy's career. Murphy scored some of his best totals in those years and Dionne scored around the same as he did with Doug Halward.

Personally think if Dionne played on a team with coaching that made him more of a team player, his totals would drop a bit, but his success would have gone up. I still remember when a reporter asked him "of your 700 goals, how many would you give up for a Stanley cup?", and he replied "probably none of them". The reporter was speechless.

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