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Originally Posted by Frozenice
I'm referring to teams that drafted 1st overall a couple of times. Chicago never drafted 1st overall (lottery win - finished 5th overall) and Toews and Barker were 3rd overall.
Washington took Alzner 5th overall and Backstrom 6th.
Edmonton drafted 1st overall 3 times - moved up 1 spot.
Pittsburgh drafted 1st overall twice, 2nd and 3rd overall.
I think there is a difference between trying to win and not be a bottom celler dweller and just rotting at the bottom of the pile.
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What about Patrick Kane?
What about Ovechkin?
A top5 pick is a pretty darn good pick my friend. Toews was arguably the best player from his crop and he was drafted 3rd overall. Tanking is not only 1st overall bud.... If we go by your thinking, Columbus wouldn't have been tanking the last few years
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Originally Posted by Habs4TheCup
My cousin trains there too. He mentionned seeing Letang, Drouin and someone from the Flyers. Giroux, Briere?
Anyway, it is very close between these guys. Drouin, Barkov and Lindholm all bring something different to the table. I just see Drouin as something Montreal doesnt need. Dont get me wong, I wouldnt be upset if Montreal selected him but I just think Barkov or Lindholm would be better for Montreal.
Collberg, Kristo and Gallagher are already all under 6" and skilled. Maybe not as skilled but still.
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Collberg ,Drouin and Kristo are pretty much 6' that inch missing doesn't change a thing, it's all about the body strenght at that point....
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Originally Posted by Playmaker09
I've watched every Sweden game since the pre-tournament games and Lindholm has been, by far, their best player. He has everything you look for in a #1 C.
I understand the staying power of Mackinnon/Jones, but it would be hard for me to see him being ranked behind Monahan or Barkov. He can essentially do everything that these two can and has more offensive upside IMO as well as a clearly superior skating ability.
He and Galchenyuk would compliment each other very well, from what I've seen.
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To me it goes like this.
Top 1 to 3: Drouin, Mackinnon, Jones
2nd tier: Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan, Ristolainen
3rd tier: Shinkaruk, Hagg, Erne, Duclair
Then later in the first round it's all about Mantha and Gauthier. But I haven't watched much WHL/OHL yet.
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Originally Posted by Forgedias
To continue on what you posted, skilled big playmaking centerman do not come around that often and to have 4 of them in one year is a windfall. We are talking in a draft usually having maybe 1 and if your lucky 2 such centerman. We have 4 this 2013. There is no way that Nathan MacKinnon, Alexander Barkov, Elias Lindholm or Sean Monahan drops to the second round. A winger can potentially drop to the second round like Sebastian Collberg did last year, but big playmaking centerman are prized because they make such a big impact to a club.
The only centerman that I think can drop to the middle of the first round is Sean Monahan because he plays on a abysmally bad club, who is at the bottom of the league in the standings. Yet he has the most points on his team and is a -3 plus/minus when the average for his club is -15. These 4 guys will make a big impact to any club that drafts them, why isn't it so inconceivable to have Montreal try make a play for them? Why is BPA the best route? If you trade up and give up a 3rd or 4th rounder to move up to get one of these guys, then I think its very much worth it.
But as was stated already in this thread, people do not want to give up picks to move up and would rather follow the best pick available policy which worked last year in 2012. So whatever route Marc Bergevin takes, I still think we will do well in 2013 for the draft. I just would like to see Montreal make a play for one of these centerman.
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How is Mackinnon big yet Drouin small when both are the same height?