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12-31-2012, 11:28 PM
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Our scouting is far from perfect, but outside of Pouliot and Maatta, (who were both first round talents), what other teammates have been picked like that?
I agree that Samuelsson was a reach, but I'm not sure that Mario has much input on the draft. Erich Kuhnhackl spent his entire career in Germany (and retired in the late 80s), so if Mario did him a solid, he's a heck of guy. Also, Chris Bourque was a waiver pickup.
I think we should wait a few years to label the Morrow, Pouliot and Maatta picks as having been wasted. I completely understand your point, but historically forwards have an easier time adjusting to the NHL than defensemen.
Yeah: first of all, Kuhnhackl was ranked in the top 6 or 8 players IN THE ENTIRE DRAFT on the Central Scouting final rankings of European skaters. We were extremely lucky to get him in the 4th round, and that pick was a no-brainer. Show me some examples of clear-cut better players taken after him (not you, Mr. T, but to anyone criticizing that pick).
As for the other guys mentioned: Pouliot was one of the elite players available at #8. In retrospect, I would be happy with any one of Pouliot, Trouba, Terravainen, or Forsberg or Grigorenko at number 8 (and Grigs only if he could/would play wing, on a team alread boasting Crosby/Malkin/Sutter at centre). Anyone of those 4 or 5 guys are in the elite category, and could be considered BPA.
Regarding Morrow & Maatta: both of these guys have some warts in their game currently, and it's far too soon to determine how they will develop and if they can iron out their games. They defintely did represent very good & appropriate picks if a team was not drafting for position. Personally, I would have liked to see the Pens pick a goalie (i.e. Subban) or perhaps Henrik Samuelsson at that spot, who was just coming off a great playoffs and Mem Cup. There were also other Dmen like Matheson, Skjei and others who may have even more upside. But I'll have no problem with the pick if Maatta turns out well. All in all, he was a pretty safe pick at that spot, and we'll just have to see what happens. I actually think his game may be better suited for NA hockey anyway.
The good news is, unlike some think, we can give these guys LOTS of time to develop. 3 full years in the AHL for Morrow, Maatta or Philip Samuelsson? No problem! It may piss off some fans who are just too excited and want to see these guys in the NHL, but we have the luxury of doing what is best for each player, especially when it comes to defense.
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