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01-09-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeyfan2k11 View Post
My point is winning% can't be tied to one player unless it's a goalie. You can't look at the team's winning% with Subban and form a conclusion about his value. That's silly because you completely ignore all other factors that contribute to wins and losses. It's silly.
Why can't it?

The best example of this came in 2009-10, the last time Markov played a significant number of games. Including the Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Canadiens were 29-16-8 in the 53 games in which Markov dressed and 15-23-2 when he didn't. Overall, since the start of the 2009-10 season, the Canadiens have a 38-22-13 record with Markov in the lineup and an 84-86-21 record without him.

This is a large sample size on a team that was built around a transition offense that stoped transitioning once Markov was on the shelf. Last year we finished last in the conference without Markov playing the vast majority of the games. When Markov was in the lineup, the Habs went to the placeoffs and competed in them.

These aren't causal numbers here. There is a significant statistical relationship with Markov in the line up than without. I didn't invent these numbers.

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