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01-10-2013, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RGY View Post
Underrated? What am I underrating?
You're underrating Callahan.

Originally Posted by RGY View Post
You're trying to win games, win a stanley cup. Put the pride aside. No one is saying he is not a great all around player or even that he is not our best all around player.
It's not an issue about pride. At all. If he's our best, or one of our best forwards, there's no reason to play him less than players that are going to have less of an impact than him.

Originally Posted by RGY View Post
Your top two lines are scoring lines. Kreider is a scoring forward. Why are we putting him on a line with less talent? Why are we not putting him in the top 6 where they will get him the puck more and he will have more time and space?
Kreider should earn that role. Has he earned it? And who's to say our top-2 lines are our only scoring lines? I did say the third-line wasn't ideal for Kreider long-term. I mentioned that I see Hagelin as our long-term 3LW. For the start of the year, I think the third line is fine for someone like CK though. Regardless of how he played last post-season.

You play your best players as much as possible, assuming the mesh with their line-mates. Neither Hagelin, nor Kreider should be playing a bigger role than Callahan. Neither has proven to be more effective yet.

Originally Posted by RGY View Post
If callahan is all that you say he is then he would be perfect for the 3rd line. He fits the mold of that line, a grind it out type of line. Stepan and Hagelin can provide enough two way hockey to compensate for callahan being moved down a line. There are roles to fill on this team. Callahan is our captain because he is a team player. Torts tends to roll 3 lines more than 4 lines as the game goes on. He isn't going to lose a significant amount of ice time. He will still get PK time and PP time with Richards on the point. There is no such thing as "being too good" for anything when you are trying to win a cup.
Who's to say our top-6 can't use someone who's great along the boards like Callahan? Who's going to do the dirty work? Who's going to go head first into the boards to fetch a puck? Who's going to cover for our pinching dmen? You're going to trust Kreider or Hagelin to provide more than Callahan? There's no way.

As the games go on, Torts tends to roll 2 lines more than 3. Especially when we're down. I want Callahan on the ice in those situations. Hell, I want Callahan there when we're up too.

You cannot even begin to compare the three players all-around game. Callahan blows both Kreider and Hagelin away.

The mentality of playing Kreider with talented players is not something I disagree with. I just don't see the problem with starting him off with Boyle and Pyatt, two players who are good for double-digit goals and can play a high-tempo game responsibly, while providing some offense.

In my world, you give the ice-time to the player that proves he's the best fit. In my book, that's Callahan until someone dethrones him. Wake me up when that happens, please. I beg you.

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