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01-13-2013, 12:29 PM
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Here we go.

First all, you're trying to prove Foligno was slightly more productive with Alfredsson instead of Neil? Really? That's quite obvious, thanks though.
You suggested he got 47 pts playing with scrubs. More goals were scored while he was on the ice with Alfredsson than while he was with anyone else. The point is, he did not as you suggest, score 47 pts playing with scrubs. He did it primarily while playing on the top 6.


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Foligno spent about 33% of his ice time with Alfredsson. He never played with Spezza. Therefore he spent about 1/3 of the season in the top 6. He spent 2/3 in the bottom 6 with scrubs like Neil (his most common linemate).
Here are the sens most frequent line combos,
123%
MILAN MICHALEK COLIN GREENING JASON SPEZZA 13.52%
KASPARS DAUGAVINS ZACK SMITH ERIK CONDRA 7.58%
MILAN MICHALEK JASON SPEZZA BOBBY BUTLER 4.09%
NICK FOLIGNO KYLE TURRIS DANIEL ALFREDSSON 3.57%
NICK FOLIGNO JIM OBRIEN CHRIS NEIL 3.47%
ERIK CONDRA KYLE TURRIS DANIEL ALFREDSSON 3.08%
DANIEL ALFREDSSON KYLE TURRIS COLIN GREENING 2.82%
MILAN MICHALEK JASON SPEZZA DANIEL ALFREDSSON 2.74%
NICK FOLIGNO ZACK SMITH CHRIS NEIL 2.45%
KASPARS DAUGAVINS ZACK SMITH CHRIS NEIL 2.42%
DANIEL ALFREDSSON COLIN GREENING JASON SPEZZA 2.4%
CHRIS NEIL ZACK SMITH ERIK CONDRA 2.12%
DANIEL ALFREDSSON KYLE TURRIS ROB KLINKHAMMER 1.89%
NICK FOLIGNO STEPHANE DA COSTA DANIEL ALFREDSSON 1.6%
BOBBY BUTLER COLIN GREENING JASON SPEZZA 1.49%
BOBBY BUTLER JESSE WINCHESTER ZENON KONOPKA 1.49%
NICK FOLIGNO DANIEL ALFREDSSON MILAN MICHALEK 1.37%
CHRIS NEIL COLIN GREENING ZACK SMITH 1.11%
NICK FOLIGNO STEPHANE DA COSTA BOBBY BUTLER 1.02%
MILAN MICHALEK KYLE TURRIS DANIEL ALFREDSSON 0.94%
ERIK CONDRA COLIN GREENING ZACK SMITH 0.93%
KASPARS DAUGAVINS ZENON KONOPKA BOBBY BUTLER 0.91%
NICK FOLIGNO PETER REGIN CHRIS NEIL 0.9%
ERIK CONDRA ZACK SMITH ZENON KONOPKA 0.89%
NICK FOLIGNO KYLE TURRIS BOBBY BUTLER 0.87%
If you look at all the instances where he was with one Alfredsson or Turris, it makes up about 49% of the lines with Foligno. Turris was our second line center with the exception of when we experimented with Foligno as a center, and of course prior to his arrival. The point is, he got plenty of time in the top 6.
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Qward said he spent the majority of the season in the top 6, which is clearly false.


The most common players Foligno was on the ice with were Jared Cowen and Chris Neil.

For Michalek, it was Spezza and Karlsson

Can you not see the difference?
Yes, the difference is consistant linemates. Fologno had his changed up, Spezza's stayed the same the whole year.
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Foligno scored 43 even strength points. Guess how many Michalek had? 43.

Not to mention Michalek getting much more PP time, on the 1st unit no less. Foligno didn't even get half of what Michalek got and when he was on the PP, it was the 2nd unit.

With all of this, Michalek managed to score a grand total of 13 more points. Congrats to him I guess.

But I guess we can all agree Michalek is a ''much much much... much better player''.
I love how in one post you talk about context with Nash vs Foligno, but then you come up with this gem. Yep, Michalek is a Far superior player to Foligno. He's a better goal scorer, he's better defensively, and he's better on the PP (that might be why he got 1st PP time, while Foligno was used sparingly on the 2nd unit). That's nothing against Foligno, but come on, I really can't understand you claiming otherwise with a straight face.

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