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01-14-2013, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Carey Price View Post
I think both guys are/were above average. Subban didn`t get to +9 with tough defensive matchups because he is poor defensively(on a team that was bad last year). Plus he was a key part of the PK. Sure has the occasional bad giveaway but so does every offensive/PM defenseman.

Markov used to get tough defensive matchups before he got hurt, he was also above average defensively. Hopefully he hasn't slipped in that area.
Yeah people are acting like PK and Markov are wildly overrated or something. If Markov can stay healthy and can skate anywhere near as good as he used to we have two elite D men back there.

And did people forget how great Gorges was too? He led the league in blocked shots by over 50 shots blocked! He was a plus 14 on a top pairing while playing for the 3rd worst team in the league for crying out loud. He rarely loses one on one battles. He played on one knee for years!!! He's a pure warrior. I can't believe some on here acting like he's the Darche of D men or something.

Our D is small but the way some are going on you'd think Traverse and Dykhuis were our top pairing or something. It's really not that bad.

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