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01-15-2013, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Phil View Post
To be fair though Gretzky is tops on both counts:

Total goals on ice for:
Gretzky - 3520
Bourque - 3257
Coffey - 3095
Murphy - 2774
MacInnis - 2709

Total goals on ice against:
Gretzky 2285
Messier 2183
Bourque 2144
Coffey 2018
Stevens 2017

Take this for what it's worth. Gretzky was on the ice for 1,235 more goals than against. The first 10 players on the latter list are all HHOFers. Lidstrom is 13th. Robinson is 14th. It is similar to when you look at the most interceptions from an NFL Quarterback? At the top of that list is Brett Favre. I believe Dan Marino is right after him. As strange as it sounds, you have to be a great player to be on a list like this.

So why is Gretzky #1 on the goals against list? Easy. He never played on a strong defensive team in his career. His Oilers were all about offense and whenever he was on the ice it was all about scoring. Not to mention the insane ice time Gretzky had, the powerplay goals scored against him from all the times he was killing penalties and playing in the NHL for 20 years and playing full seasons almost every year. That's a lot of games and you're going to get scored on once in a while. Martin Brodeur has the most losses in NHL history if you want a good comparison.
Let's also not forget that he has the highest +/- in a single season and career among forwards. I'm not even sure his +98 will be matched by any forward or d-man in the near future.

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