Acq/ Rost. Bldg./ Cap Part XVI
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01-17-2013, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Depends. Did they do something to force Leonsis's hand? If so, what are we getting back?
I'd be absolutely thrilled if he traded Green and Laich on consecutive days and got a Couturier and Voracek for Green and a solid top 4 defenseman for Laich. If you notice Philly was a much improved team from 2010-2011. And that's with Bryzgalov being a bigger bust than anyone thought he'd be.
You severly overrate our players.
While third line centers does hold some value in todays game, Laich is not a pure center, which cripples a lot of his value to other teams. Even if we play with the thought that he was a pure 3C, he would never return a top 4 D-man in a trade.
Green has little to no value at this point. I wouldn't want to trade him even if he did! With his injury record he will have to show that he can stay healthy, or GM's would simply shy away by simply gazing upon his huge contract.
And please stop making a fool out of yourself when referring to Bryzgalov as a bust in Philly. He ended the year just a few saves shy of 91%, and that with the teams top D-man in Pronger injured for half a season. Add to that a horrible bottom pairing, that played so awful, that Holmgren had to stop the bleeding by acquiring Grossman at the deadline. The only thing bad about Bryz is his mastodont contract, which can only be blamed upon Holmgren, not Bryz.
And while we are at it, Bryz playoff performance against Pittsburgh does not count as a valid argument. There's no goalie in the world capable of staying above 90% save efficiency, when the whole team in front of you does not play any defense.
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This is all fantasy obviously (like every single thing ever posted on this board). I showed you the players going out, and the players coming in. If you see any defects with the projected lineup feel free to point them out. I think it's the best lineup in the league for the next 3 years at least. All players gotten back would be long term acquisitions. This isn't trading for Pronger to let him walk after a year (which you'd have been fine for, I'd have been too). Hershey would be bad, but Pittsburgh, Philly, SJ and LA did fine with bare cupboards when they were in win now modes. It certainly didn't cripple them.
It's rarely a good idea to lock up too much money in just a few players. It always has a way to come back and haunt you at some point.
I also don't believe that acquiring tons of star players increases your chances of playoff success. Team depth, luck in avoiding injuries as well as players finding their best game at the right time, those are all attributes which does win you cups.
I actually prefer GMGM's idea of consistently contending year after year, rather than going all in, just to increase the chances of winning in one lone season. The rules of logic dictates that if you try over and over again, you will eventually be successful.
I rather keep contending, allowing for our youngsters to eventually take the spots of our current stars, more so than to go all in and then watch us miss the playoffs for a decade or more with a completely worthless prospect pool and crap shoot draft picks. We have all seen what happened to franchises like Toronto. I would prefer if we stayed away from such a fate, and instead kept adding to our prospect pool, instead tweaking our lineup trading players like Schultz, Hamrlik and Erskine etc for roster players of similar value, who might do better in our system.
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