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01-19-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DAChampion View Post
1) I'm perfectly happy with picks in the 18-30 range, particularly for a deep draft like 2013.
2) High picks do get traded, see Jordan Staal, Jeff Carter, Mike Richards, and Symeon Varlameov trades as examples.
3) Your argument that "it's never been done before" is not a valid argument against innovation. Innovative strategies by definition have never been done before, as such your logic is completely circular; i.e. you're arguing against innovation on the basis that innovation is innovative.
It has been done before, it happens all the time. Even if it wasn't point number three drives things home as well. Great points and thanks for saving me a whole bunch of writing.
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Between 2015 and 2018 (When it will count), Pleks will be between 32 and 35 years/old, it is therefore very self explanatory that I can logically say that you are dead wrong if we draft the 15th best player in the 2013 draft, he will be better than a Pleks over 32 years old, if only for the smaller cap hit!

It seems like you don't get it to the bone. You are making the assumption that we would draft the 15th best player in 2013 with any first round ticket we could get out of Pleks. That pick also could get us a Maxpac, a Mcdo or a Subban. Trying to approximate the results before the pick is made is ludicrous. Yes things could go wrong, but they can also go right. To evaluate it in the middle of these outcomes doesn't help your argument, it's not common sense because simply it's not how it works.

What exactly is a standard situation? Does that really exist? When you have a guy like Plekanec, who is signed for a few years and you want to trade him at the deadline, you will get a first rounder out of it if not more from a contender in the present. Gaustad...Zemgus Girgensons (after another trade)
Stop, you're making too much sense.

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I'm not sure if anyone is suggesting that the value of each of these player is a first rounder. Pleks probably, if well sold. Cole and Markov we could get lucky, but they are more likely to be 2nd rounder returns. (And that in the context of a rebuild is still fine.)
Markov and Cole are dependent on their performances. If Cole plays like he did last year, I don't see how he doesn't get at least a 1st. Ditto with Markov. They won't be high 1sts but we should get at least a 1st if they're playing well.

Nice thing is that we could combine them together or with other assets to get a higher return too.

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