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01-21-2013, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Gonzo View Post
What? You are the one who is bringing up the arbitrary "impact" argument, I was just playing along with your silly notion.

Then you turn around and say the player making an impact is not an impact player.

No offense buddy, but your random qualifications are getting hard to follow.

Instead of inventing things that aren't tangible, perhaps stick to the facts? It's the easiest way to figure out a players worth. People usually use intangibles like "impact player or not" when there isn't a valid argument against the projected players worth.

Subban certainly has a lot of things to learn, but he's 23, and he's done everything we've asked of him, and more.
quite easy to understand, you can replace ANY player on a team with a better player and it will have an impact on the team.

but being an impact player is more than just being better than the guy you replace. It means that your play, wether you're a skilled player or not, have an immediate impact on teammates or on the games results.

I'll get back to the Koivu example, when playin on his Wing, Brian Savage was a 25 goal scorer, once taken off Koivu's wings he slowly disappeared from the NHL (injuries didnt help, but still), Higgins when playing alongside Koivu was a 20 goal scorer, something he never repeated once taken off Koivu's wing...

on the other hand, while he was as productive as Koivu, and sometimes more, Ribeiro didnt really make anyone better, nor did he help the Habs/Stars accomplish anything.

See, impact vs skills

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