All Encompassing Tanking/Rebuilding/Selling at Deadline Thread 2.0
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01-21-2013, 10:30 PM
Join Date: Mar 2011
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How about the last 15 years? Has that blown your mind?
Did letting our core (the same core tons of people - including you - said we couldn't give up on) walk away for nothing blow your mind?
Did the Gomez trade blow your mind? The Roy trade? The years we wasted going for 8th and not rebuilding?
You can sit there and say it has nothing to do with the team we have today but the common thread is... guys like you. Guys who wear rose coloured glasses no matter what the club does. The apologists who always say - wait till next year - as though not doing anything to really improve will somehow magically result in a championship.
When will you realize that we're not great? Being the Montreal Canadiens doesn't entitle us to cups? We actually have to build towards champoinships.
Price, Subban and Galchenyuk are a great start. Maybe if we're lucky they and the rest of the youngsters we have coming up will be enough. But if we're not winning anything now anyway (AND WE'RE NOT - GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD) then we should do something proactive about it and add to that core.
We've said it for years and for years the club has done the opposite. Don't come here now and pretend like we've been wrong. YOU have been wrong.
I'm sorry but for you to come here and pretend we're great... you have no credibility.
On the contrary. I never said we were great, I said we had a good core. You putting words in my mouth to try winning an internet argument shows, in fact, that "you have no credibility".
The first three paragraphs of your post are so silly. Are they just filler to make your argument look bigger? Why are you asking questions about the past when the current management is 100% different from then? And why are you asking questions with obvious answers? Stop being pretentious.
People like you, people who think rebuilding is the answer to all the club's woes, make me laugh. First of all, rebuilding is all about luck. I see you posting all around the boards, whining that our current prospects are too many "IFs" and "BUTs". What, may I ask, is a bigger "if and but" than the damn draft? A NHL entry draft is one of the biggest gambles in the league, you draft players and HOPE they do well. It's like a lottery. So when you complain about how our team has too many "IFs" and then turn around and want our team to put 100% of our efforts into a draft, which is THE KING OF IF'S, just seems so silly in my eyes.
I'm the one saying we need to build, build towards championships. But you and others on the boards cry for "rebuilding" which is NOT the same thing and far more risky. We can build around this good core of youth, but trading away ALL the veterans is so stupid! How can you not see that trading away Cole, who obviously helped Pacioretty tremendously last year, is a BAD idea? How can you not see that trading Markov, who can teach Subban and our defense SO MUCH, is a bad idea? Keeping veteran leadership is mandatory on any team.
I'm not wearing rose-coloured glasses, and I never said everything is okay. This team isn't looking amazing obviously. But stop pretending like you've always had the right idea all along. Stop pretending HFBoards has always been right, "saying it for years and years". I remember, one or two years ago, reading these boards, and you were preaching the same thing you are preaching now: rebuilding and making big trades for the future. You ended your argument by saying we needed to trade Pacioretty and a 1st round pick for James Van-Riemsdyk because our team needed a good young power forward to build around. Now, looking back, can you imagine how stupid that would've been? Giving up Pacioretty and Galchenyuk for JVR? Ridiculous.
So yes, YOU have been the one who is wrong. Listening to the stupid ideas of ridiculous trades on these boards would be the dumbest thing the Habs management could do. You, and everyone else preaching this stupid rebuild have no idea how that would result, and neither do I. Betting this team on hoping for the best is ridiculous. Marc Bergevin has been the GM of this team for one NHL game and you already want him to blow up this team for a bunch of kids. Do you see how silly that sounds? This thread is gibberish and you can guarantee that experts would never be spewing the garbage that is in this thread.
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