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01-22-2013, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Grudy0 View Post
Let's take a look then at other teams that were relocated:

The Carolina Hurricanes were relocated from Harford for the 1997-98 season. They remained in the Northeast Division for that season until the expansion of the late 1990's moved them into the newly-formed Southeast Division.

The Phoenix Coyotes were relocated from Winnipeg for the 1996-97 season. They remained in the Central Division for two seasons until the expansion of the late 1990's moved them into the newly-reformed Pacific Division

The Colorado Avalanche were relocated from Quebec for the 1995-96 season. They were immediately moved into the Pacific Division. Colorado would be moved into the newly-formed Northwest Division as a result of the late 1990's expansion.

The Dallas Stars were relocated from Minnesota for the 1993-94 season. They were left in the Norris/Central Division, but would be moved to the reformed Pacific Division in the late 1990's.
Ok, let's take another look at what you posted there....

- Carolina remained in the Northeast until expansion.
- Phoenix remained in the Central until expansion.
- Colorado was immediately moved to the Pacific (*Note: not kept in the Northeast... Could be Winnipeg in the Central, and not kept in the Southeast), before being moved to the Northwest.
- Dallas in the Central,... well that was logical to begin with...

So, what I see is that those teams either stayed in the original team's Division until Expansion, or they were immediately put in a more appropriate Division. Neither of which is the option planned for Winnipeg. No, in Winnipeg's case, the League has proposed new Divisions, without expansion. So, Winnipeg wasn't immediately put in a more appropriate, and isn't going to be resituated due to an expansion.

Just because Winnipeg is closer to all of the teams in the Central Division than the teams in the Southeast Division isn't necessarily a genuine need. But that makes a few assumptions:
1) everyone is happy with the 6-4-18 scheduling format, where every team plays their divisional opponents six times, their in-conference opponents four times and then everyone in the other conference once, with an addition three out-of-conference games for a total of 18 out-of-conference games.
2) that everyone is happy with the division they are currently in.

A simple swap gives the Winnipeg Jets the spot currently held by one of Detroit, Columbus or Nashville. Does Winnipeg want to be in a division with St. Louis, Chicago, and two of Detroit, Columbus or Nashville? Or do either of Minnesota or Dallas want that spot?
What does any of that have to do with making the simple swap?

If there are other issues, then tend to those other issues. We've known for a long time that certain teams aren't happy with their Divisions. The schedule itself can be adapted in various ways to fit the alignment. And Winnipeg would probably prefer the Northwest Division over the Central Division. None of those things prohibit Winnipeg from being swapped with a Central Division team taking the SE slot.

And that's where we get to the crux of the problem: And that's exactly why a two-step realignment won't be done. The NHL's Board of Governors cannot agree on a simple swap, because the "promise" of another realignment doesn't hold water. It's exactly why a somewhat radical realignment was passed in December 2011, and I'm of the belief the exact same proposal will be passed as the realignment for the 2013-14 season.
And again, the League doesn't have to be made up of children or pranksters. A simple and formal agreement could be made that other alignment issues will be tended to with expansion (if they can't agree on a different alignment arrangement for those teams now within the 6-Division format).

It's almost like you're suggesting that forcing the 4-Division alignment will then result in expansion. Isn't that like putting the cart before the horse? Shouldn't it be expansion which forces the 4-Division alignment?

Oh, and apparently to have that expansion in the Northeast and Atlantic Divisions.

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