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01-23-2013, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WingsFan95 View Post
Wilt's shafting of at least 2 league MVPs and his crap teams and lack of wide media like today minimize his unmatched dominance in the game of basketball.

He is equal to Jordan on the highest peak of his game.

I don't care if Gretzky is considered GOAT by the casual fan. These are the same fans who come frothing at the mouth to the NHL after 3 lockouts.

Gretzky is behind Orr most certainly and in my books behind Lemieux as well. And that's skaters.
But you also ranked Gretzky at 8th all time among skaters so its not like you are without bias. Any argument for Orr above Gretzky usually includes defensive play. Which should automatically exclude Lemieux since he was far more one dimensional than Gretzky. There are arguments to put one or the other above Gretzky but no real argument for both. Same if you include Howe. If you rank Howe above due to longevity you cannot logically rank Lemieux and Orr above him. If you rank Orr above him for complete game you cannot logically rank Lemieux above him. Gretzky dominated far more at his peak than any other hockey player except Orr and Gretzky did it longer and in a deeper era.

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