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01-24-2013, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JmanWingsFan View Post
I just wonder what everyone thinks of Holland if everything actually went to plan...

-Suter doesn't hesitate and puts the pen to the paper before Parise can snatch him away...

-Detroit easily beats the Rangers offer for Nash (Which I wholeheartedly believe is true), and Howson realizes he can't be a beggar choosing his return and actually does the smart thing and take the "heluva" offer from the Wings...

And then our team, instead of in the messy state things are in, looks like this:

Valtteri Filppula/ Pavel Datsyuk/ Rick Nash
Todd Bertuzzi/ Henrik Zetterberg/Damien Brunner
Danny Cleary/ Darren Helm/ Mikael Samuelsson
Drew Miller/ Justin Abdelkader/ Jordin Tootoo

Ryan Suter/ Ian White
Niklas Kronwall/ Jonathan Ericsson
Brendan Smith/ Michal Rozsival*

Jimmy Howard
Jonas Gustavsson
*Just a throw in... I'm not sure how Holland would have gone the 6th/7th Dman route had he got Suter and likely traded Kindl to CBJ as part of a deal for Nash.

I bet there wouldn't have been any Holland haters if things actually went his way last offseason. It's not like he didn't have a plan. I'm wondering whether he came into the offseason with the expectations that Suter and Nash would have been in a Wings Jersey when all was said and done. Because of that, I'm starting to wonder if all these depth signings like Samuelsson and extending Bertuzzi were made with the idea that we'd be able to acquire Nash, which would obviously deplete our depth with guys like Franzen, Nyquist, and maybe even Tatar going the other way.

Of course we all know what happened....

-Suter was called by Parise and offered a boatload to play for Minnesota, and he bolted for the then better offer without giving anyone a chance to match.

-Howson wouldn't listen to Detroit even if they offered Zetterberg and Datsyuk for Nash. Instead, he did the stupid thing and destroyed what little market there was for Nash by making the NYR the only viable suiter for Nash. With what Sather gave up for Nash, I still have no doubt in my mind we could have topped that easily.

And then our team is left in the current state it was. Should Holland have put us in a better position so he wouldn't have to gamble on the offseason? Perhaps. I'm no GM. But were these legitimate risks to take? Absolutely. As we all know, Suter signing with us was incredibly close, IIRC pen almost on the paper close. I still want to know what that "helluva" offer was for Nash. We still don't know what that was.
Holland tried to get Salo. So you can pull out Rosival and go with:

Quincey, not Kindl, is probably the defenseman to go if that happens (unless Kindl is in the Nash trade); there's no way Holland is still signing him to that deal if Suter and Salo sign.

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