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01-24-2013, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingHigh28 View Post
I don't look @ the Luke Schenn / JVR trade as "potential for potential". One of them (JVR) has the opportunity to be an elite 1st line power-forward, the kind of guy who never becomes available via free agent and is thought of as a franchise player. The other guy (L. Schenn) has no offensive ability or potential. He cannot / will not ever be a true #1 defenseman. His top potential is to become a great shutdown defenseman, which is nice, but those types of players are regularly available via free agency and the absolute best guys in the business @ shutting opponents down while providing no offense barely make that much more than Schenn makes now (as far as cap hit goes).

My issue wasn't with trading JVR, it's with the return we got for him. If Luke was the best we could do, we should've retained him for another year.

Likewise in this situation I'm open to trading B. Schenn (just as I was open to trading JVR). I'm not OK w/ another GM skullf***ing us on the value yet again though. I'd be cool trading Schenn for Subban, but I'm not adding Voracek or Simmonds or Read or something outrageous like that. But if we could get a close to 1 for 1 trade w/ us throwing in a 2nd rounder or something, I'd probably do it. Or if we could trade both Schenns for Subban + another valuable player from the Habs, I'd do that too.

I don't think you really have to worry about Brayden Schenn being traded though, because I just can't see Holmgren and co. trading Brayden while keeping Luke and I think it's tough at this point to move the Schenns in a package deal and get good value for them.

But if Brayden were ever to be traded, I'd root for him to be successful (unless he was with a division rival). And I wouldn't speak poorly about him like a ton of people do w/ JVR. It's really just ridiculous to me how many people knock a 23 year old because he's got consistency issues...
It's equally ridiculous and hypocritical to knock and "speak poorly" of B Schenn like you did by saying all he's shown us is that he can check? Has he not been injured and is he not young? This is where I'm having a problem with your holier than though mockery of people who have a different view of JVR's ceiling. You say he may be an elite power forward so his potential is higher than that of L Schenn who you pretty much say is just at best a top 4 D man..maybe so. But my belief is that JVR will probably be a serviceable player..50pt type guy and not some elite player like you think.

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