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01-25-2013, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Teufelsdreck View Post
If Markov and Diaz keep it up and Subban signs the Habs could compete for a playoff slot, which would 1) affect their position in the draft and 2) discourage Bergevin from
trading assets at the deadline. Can Markov keep it up? A 48-game schedule makes it easier in terms of fatigue and lessens the number of opportunities to be injured. The only player I wouldn't miss is Kaberle; he wouldn't fetch much in a trade but it would relieve presure on the cap. I don't care what the Habs get back.
It would be great to ditch Kaberle. Somebody would have to be pretty hard up at the deadline to take him though. And they'd have to have the cap space to boot.
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Wrong how? That Markov is our MVP when he's in the lineup? Wrong that there was a good possibility that he would be back 100% and still have the same impact? Wrong that you always have to over inflate, exaggerate and distort because you know you're starting off with a broken wing? He has played 37 games since coming back of his injury, that's not 3 games. Also, it's been two years, because 3 years ago, almost to the day, I was here saying that Markov coming back from his lacerated Achilles's heel would make us better and we'd make the playoffs, which by all accounts, I was right about that as we went from a under ,500 record to a +,600 record and went to the ECF. But don't lose your breath with your exaggerations.
If anyone suggested that the guy wasn't going to play you went batsht crazy on them. You screamed that a knee injury wasn't the same as a concussion and that he'd be back. Next thing you know he gets hurt again. Then you call anyone crazy who suggests he won't be back the next season, then he misses pretty much the whole year. Well it's three years later and now he's played three games. And you come out with "clairovoyant" crap like this.



Okay man. What are you the Amazing Kreskin?
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You haven't changed one bit. It's been two years and a half since he tore his ACL, and about over a year since I've been saying that his coming back would make a huge difference, and his being out is the only reason we can entertain 'tanking'.
Everyone acknowledges he's a great player man and everyone knows he's a difference maker. Nobody said otherwise.

But he wasn't going to win a cup for us. You just said so in another thread where you said no matter how good he was we never had the forwards to support him... so after years of screaming that I was wrong, basically you've now pulled a 180 and agreed with me.

And he probably won't win a cup with us going forward either.
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So the truth is about 15 months, not 36 months. This need to exaggerate shows a lack of actual acumen whether about facts or hockey itself. It is your usual crutch to mask your shortcomings. Not surprisingly, you distort by making it seem as though I even inferred to KNOW when he would come back, when all I said in the past is that if he comes back he would have a huge impact, the same impact as before, which I was right about. You are completely unable to debate honestly.
The guy played half a season three years ago and has played 20 games since.

Now he's played three games and you're making a fool out of yourself trying to say "I told you so."
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This need to distort the truth serves no other purpose than to show every one just how childish you are.
I always see you calling people childish... Strange how everyone is childish except you.
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You know nothing about being practical. If you did, logical pragmatism would've illuminated your brain a long time ago about the impracticality of deliberate or even half-deliberate 'tanking' in the type of market Montreal is. This same pragmatism would've shone a light on the fact that tanking is the inevitable fortune-misfortune of bad seasons, but mostly, of bad markets, the reason why you rarely see huge markets (when they are making money) tank, even less likely on multiple seasons. And lastly but not least, true logical pragmatism would have you realize that the entire logic of trading assets for picks in 'tank' mode is something even a 12 year old playing EA's NHL video game understands and can perform admirably, and that most fans don't need to talk about it over endless threads to show how it could be done.
Right, I forgot. We can't miss the playoffs because the league would fold. They need the revenue sharing dollars that we bring in.

Apparently this doens't apply to the Leafs though...
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Markov is in the lineup and a fluke incident is what it is. For now he's playing 100% and a team would be foolish to not count on his impact as he's the MVP of this team, has been the MVP for over a decade and will remain that for the foreseeable future.
Him being the MVP of our team over the last decade isn't saying much man. We've iced mediocre to bad teams over that stretch. Some of us were able to see this and others not so much.

Now you're back saying that not even Lidstrom would've won a cup with us so...
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But feel free to continue to expound on the merits and the pure genius of 'tanking' as if no one ever thought about it.

Don't bother responding, I know your usual drivel and your usual MO. Been there, done that.
I always read this from you "don't bother responding..."

Nah... I'll respond. Its kind of fun to watch you go postal over simple hockey debates.


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