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Originally Posted by Jack de la Hoya
I think 50 was always a pretty realistic projection for his offensive output, honestly.
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You clearly didn't see the lockout thread about Schenn and Cooter's upsides, haha.
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Originally Posted by Rainbow Express
Couturier for Subban? **** that noise.
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Sean is gonna be a rock for this team. 25/35 type of output and WILL be up for the Selke numerous times baring injury.
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So, wait, a young 40-50 pt dman who plays 30 mins a night of strong defense is less valuable than a 60 pt forward who plays 20 mins a night of strong defense? At the VERY least they are equivalent, imo. And that is before you even consider that one has actually started to sniff his potential while the other hasn't (of course, Cooter is younger and not expected to be at that level yet - but it is completely nonsensical to not at least allow for the POSSIBILITY that he doesn't completely fulfill the expectations people place at his feet since he is still pretty far out from them - I mean, didn't most of you JUST GET DONE having your dreams and hopes dashed by JVR?).
Imo, Cooter for Subban is a no-brainer for the Flyers. A trade of relatively equal value young players from a position of strength to a position of need. The only hesitation is in cap hit difference (league min vs. 4M+), but that is more than made up for by their development difference (a legit top pairing on the verge of #1 vs. a 3rd/4th line forward with 1st/2nd line POTENTIAL)
Of course, I also thought Cooter+Schenn+ for Weber was a no brainer, too... and I remember most here thought that would be a mistake as well.