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01-28-2013, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HabsByTheBay View Post

Tampa Bay is profitable, the Canucks are more likely to fold than they are.

If metro areas were counted the same as in America Vancouver's metro area would be 5 million people? You would get a handful of extra towns but you wouldn't be close to 5 million people. It's simply not a large market, especially when you consider there is no chance of growing into a regional franchise since people in US border towns will root for the Mariners.

Also, BC Place is not a serious baseball facility. MLB isn't moving a team anywhere unless it's to a new stadium.
The US any nearby (Within hundreds of kilometres) population center as part of their metropolitan area. For example, Canada measures Toronto's metropolitan population as a little over 5.5 million. If Ontario was a US state, they would count the Golden Horsehoe as the metro area, so places like Barrie and Kitchener-Waterloo would be part of it.

If BC was a US state, Victoria would be considered part of the Vancouver metropolitan area. I'm not that familiar with BC cities, but the entire lower mainland would be included, and likely portions of Washington state.

If you take out revenue sharing, Tampa Bay losses money. Even with their nearly non-existant payroll, they lose out. They have a weaker fanbase than the Lightning, their stadium is a detriment to the league. You are quit misinformed the Rays if you think the Canucks would fold before they would. The Rays have the worst TV numbers, the worst ticket sales, probably the lowest payroll now that the Pirates owner has started to spend money. The only reason they're still alive is revenue sharing, which is massive. If the MLB doesn't believe in them, that tells you something.

I don't see how Vancouver is "too small a market" when both the other markets brought up, Portland and Charlotte, are smaller if they calculated metro the same way? Canada can easily support two franchises, whether the second is in Vancouver or Montreal. You don't need to sell out a 50,000 seat stadium 81 times. BC Place is a state of the art facility and even if it's not intended for baseball, it's still better than arguably the worst stadium in North America, Tropicana Field. If they got a team, Vancouver would get a baseball only stadium in the next 10 years guarenteed.

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