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01-30-2013, 02:34 PM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Seriously CF, I don't know if you have been to Westgate, but if the Coyotes leave and unless they can turn the Job around somehow and book concerts regularly (which I highly doubt, but that's just my opinion), Westgate is in for a world of hurt. I don't think that is opinion. I think that is fact. I will become a wasteland, especially during week nights.
Right now Westgate is a three legged chair, even with an arena anchor tenant. Ellman never developed it as a true mixed use complex. There is very little office, and hardly any residential to support the retail. Even with the Coyotes, that development has major issues which I think leads to the opinion it will fail if the Coyotes leave because it is tettering on the brink already.
Actually, I have. I'll probably be there again in March when I go to Scottsdale to watch a few Giants game. I generally try to grab a Coyotes game on that annual trip.
For the Mordor on Earth angle, the numbers simply don't support it at all:
I understand that "Westgate will fail without the Coytoes" is the easiest rhetoric to generate in this saga but there's really no substantial evidence to support it. Conversely, there's a mountain of evidence to show that the JIG lease is about the worst fiscal decision the city can make.
Also, the idea that a Super Bowl Host Committee bid is contingent upon the arena status is just profoundly ignorant. It shows absolutely zero comprehension for how Super Bowl bids are made and awarded. But I like hearing how it's "been quietly used to bring a lot of people into line."
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