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01-30-2013, 05:58 PM
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New York
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I think what alot of the hater's are missing is: Tort's is happy as a Pig in Poop to win these games 2-1. That's his style..That's what he want's..
He won't allow the Creative player's to be Creative,
he want's these guys down low blocking shots, dump and chase, and the like. I'm sure the younger player's especially, are scared poopless to make a mistake, so their more focused on playing D.
.I'm sorry fella's not many 40 goal scorer's in the history of The NHL were also Selke winner's
.. Ya seen @ his presser how much class the guy has calling the younster Hagelin out in front of The world..
IMHO C. Hagelin-D. Stepan-C.Kreider-J.T Miller-C.Thomas- on and on will never score consistently until either Tort's is canned or the player gets traded.
If you are expecting that from this group, you might want to get used to it or Take up bowling.. Good or bad this is Tort's style. It's his Team...Also IMHO i personally think Hagelin- & Stepan have played pretty well and much better than several of the other forwards in the last 2-3 games.. This team has far more pressing issues than these two as far as i can see.
Gaborik has scored 100+ goals in three years on NYR. He scored 41 goals and 76 points last year. He's never, ever been anywhere near the Selke conversation yet he's been getting first line minutes pretty much since he came to NY. Richards put up 66 points last year, had first line minutes, and was far from a defensive dynamo. Stepan, as a 21 year old, put up 51 points and was the 2C all year. He already scores consistently for a guy of his age at this level. MDZ was 18th in the league in scoring for defenseman and was not great on the D side of the puck.
I'm sorry, but the idea that Torts doesn't let creative players be creative is a cop out. The fact is, we don't get the glitzy draft picks that provide young talented scorers and getting players with offensive talent in trades isn't easy.
Torts certainly didn't seem as happy as a pig in poop last night during his presser. He was pissed that they almost lost the game despite playing better than the opposition for 60 minutes. He wants them to destroy every team they play, I'm fairly certain of that. He expects young players to play solid D because D is a requirement for having success at the NHL level. There aren't many teams that win 6-5 and the like consistently. If you can't play D, they'll find someone else who can do it while also putting up a respectable amount of offense.
It seems like a lot of people on the boards aren't happy unless every. single. player. is an offensive dynamo. The league doesn't work that way. Gaborik, Richards, Nash, Callahan, Stepan and MDZ are consistent scorers in comparison to the rest of the league. Guys like Hagelin, Pyatt, McD, Staal and others are on and off scorers, sometimes they find that part of their game and sometimes they don't. Notice that those guys are also responsible defensive players. Then there are guys like Boyle and Girardi who are great at D and lack offensive prowess. Welcome to the NHL under the salary cap. You can't have three lines of consistent scorers because a. there aren't that many scorers in the league and b. there definitely aren't that many scorers who can also play top-notch defense, which is required to win in today's NHL.
Edit: Wanted to add that the prospects you listed haven't exactly been lighting up the AHL with their offense. I guess the fear of Torts, even on another team in a different league, is so strong that it's crippling them.
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