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01-31-2013, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 View Post
Bolded describes Tim Thomas perfectly. 10+ seasons in the hockey hinterlands then a couple of interesting seasons or a playoff run. Then Brian Elliott comes along and puts things in perspective.

Point is flip Thomas' career 180 degrees, a few good NHL seasons at the start of a career followed by mediocre years or disappearing from the NHL and you are looking at Roger Crozier, Ron Hextall, Don Edwards types.
Roger Crozier who was never close to a second 1st Team All-Star after his rookie season? Ron Hextall who barely won his and was never close to a second Vezina/1st Team All-Star? Don Edwards who was never close to any 1st Team All-Star?

Crozier and Edwards having losing playoff records. Hextall is barely .500. Crozier won his Conn Smythe in a losing effort despite Worsley posting a .931 to Crozier's .915 and facing more shots per game. Hextall won his Conn Smythe in a losing effort because despite allowing at least 3 goals in 12 of his final 13 playoff games, he kept things close against Edmonton. None of them won a Stanley Cup.

Tim Thomas has double the Vezina/1st Team All-Star selections, a Conn Smythe/Stanley Cup run that saw him knock out the top-two offensive teams in the Eastern Conference and dominate the top-offensive team in the league in the Final, and a second strong playoff in 2009. How exactly are they his type, and where is Brian Elliott's decent playoff run that supposedly puts Tim Thomas in perspective? Elliott is no different than a Cristobal Huet or a Vesa Toskala but in a year with even more inflated save percentage numbers, and if you haven't noticed, those three don't exactly have Vezinas (plural) now, do they?

Which two-time Vezina/1st Team All-Star goaltender isn't on our list? Surprise, they all are. The only ones with even a single selection that didn't make it up for vote are Ryan Miller, Evgeni Nabokov, Jose Theodore, Olaf Kolzig, Jim Carey, Pelle Lindbergh, Pete Peeters, Roger Crozier, Johnny Mowers, and Normie Smith. Of those ten, only Mowers and Smith won a Stanley Cup, and they played less NHL hockey than Tim Thomas. Considering Thomas has double the regular season award recognition, what makes you believe the phrase "didn't have the type of elite careers worth discussing on our Top 70 and Top 40 lists" describes Tim Thomas perfectly?

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