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01-31-2013, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Grillinnap View Post
I don't feel bad for Coyotes fans at all. They have a state-of-the-art arena that will last for a very long time. Add to the fact that they've had a competitive team for over 2 years now. This isn't a Sonics or Sacto Kings situation, in which arena problem was to blame.
What is going on is that there has been a threat of relocation going on for years that is keeping many away along with the bad economy that makes it hard for others on how much they can spend on tickets and such. In fact, I would have at laugh at someone if they brought tickets to any event over their own and/or their families needs. Looking at history, I have yet to see a case where the fans of any team that is facing the threat of relocation would come out in droves to pack the building in order to influence having the team stay where it is and that is regardless of what kind of building they are in. If there are any, chances are it is a very small number.

Originally Posted by kingsholygrail View Post
Who has even expressed interest in having the team?
Jerry Reisdorf(IMO was the only real deal in this mess) Ice Edge, Matt Hultiser, Greg Jamison.

Originally Posted by Grillinnap View Post
US Airways Center is not built for hockey. What other choices would they have had?
The seating is deisgened more for basketball but it is duable for hockey. Seeing the Islanders are going to move to an arena where the Nets play at 14,500 seating for hockey with limited view seating, it would only be fair for the league to see if the team can move back in US Airways Center at the rate things or going.

Originally Posted by kingsholygrail View Post
They just make a point to block any sales that involve moving the team. This could have been over and done with years ago.
To be fair to the league here, any team that is in trouble they would like to fix what is going wrong 1st while making relocation an last resort and their track record proves that.

Originally Posted by RonSwanson View Post
Why did they choose Glendale over Scottsdale?
The voters of Scottsdale approved the measure 2 times to get an arena in Scottsdale but the City Council of Scottsdale didn't go through with getting an arena in the city. After seeing what went on in Glendale, I wouldn't be surprised if those same council members are saying "Boy I'm glad we didn't give this team its own building". Plus Glendale was willing to step up for this team when no other city in the Valley of the Sun would.

Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
1) NFL games are "EVENTS" that occur eight times a year on a Saturday, Sunday, or Monday night.

2) Like I said, people in Phoenix don't do traffic.

Why are these decisions ever made? Some taxpayers are more willing to provide public funds for a stadium than others.
The traffic here in Metro Phoenix today is bad just about anytime even before and after the Cardinals games. Plus almost no one in AZ was going to the Cardinals games when they were playing at Sun Devil Stadium for 20+ years and that stadium is right down the street from where the Coyotes were looking to move to in Scottsdale.

Originally Posted by Buddy The Elf View Post
I personally don't buy the location argument either. There are stadiums/arenas built all over the country that don't have a problem getting people to commute. Was the attendance in Phoenix any better/worse when they weren't playing Glendale? There are probably a myriad of reasons why Phoenix isn't working out but they do have the population to support a team, they just don't seem to have the interest in the team or the sport.
I agree with your take on the location thing but to be accurate on the interest of hockey here, I have to say this. Metro Phoenix alone has the largest transplant population in the United States. 4.1 Million people live in the Valley of the Sun and over 70% of the people here were not born in Arizona. Some of the biggest contributors to Arizonas population include(but not limited to) Canada(More so Western Canada and Quebec), California(more so Southern California) the Mid-West(Chicago and Detroit areas mostly) New York, New Jersey, and New England. They're alot of hockey Fans in AZ and more than others would give the state credit for, it just that when you have a high population of transplants, your going to have more people who are fans of their home teams than anything else. There are exceptions. I'm from New York origionally and have lived in Arizona for over the last 10 years and I'm not a die hard fan of any of the teams in NY.

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