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02-02-2013, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by inthewings View Post
Why bother discussing a topic you're going to blatantly lie about? Fisher averaged over 20 goals and 45 points a season in his last 5 years here while winning >50% of his faceoffs and playing elite defense. That's a 2nd line-C, and a very good one.

Similarly, Vermette had developed into a 40+ point C with great defense and elite faceoff skills, and did it without any PP time. Both him and Fisher were very, very good players, and clearly worthy of 2nd-line duties.

This team had 5 top 6 forwards (3 of them elite), with guys like Kelly, Neil, and Eaves, and Donovan more than capable of playing quality bottom-6 minutes.

They also had 3 top-4 D-men in the middle of their prime. It isn't a stretch to say that roster could have been better-managed, and that with more shrewd decisions could have continued to contend. After all, Gillis inherited a similar situation in Vancouver.
I am not lying about the Sens attempting to upgrade at 2nd line centre for the entire time Fisher was there. Both Mike Comrie and Matt Cullen were both acquired for this very reason. Vermette was a winger on this team (Kelly was the 3rd line centre) so I have no idea why you keep listing him there.

Are you the weird poster who had the weird fixation on Mike Fisher and have since changed your name? If so, that would explain a lot about your arguments. If not, I apologize but you need to go back and look at what actually happened during that time period.

Why is Patrick Eaves even being mentioned in this? He was a terrible hockey player who had an out of character strong rookie season. Sean *** Donovan? Am I allowed to list every 4th line plug that played on every other team for comparison?

It's a bad premise. I told you why the team was inevitably ready to take a slide when Muckler left. No amount of tinkering that Murray could do would make up for the fact that the team had no young cheap assets in their system to either use as trade chips or move into the lineup and contribute.

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