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02-06-2013, 12:08 AM
robert terwilliger
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you can break carpenter up into three pieces of his career.

there's four years in toronto, his age 23-26 seasons, where he went for a 4.75 era in 716 innings and an era+ of 100. exactly league average. he then pitched 73 innings and tore his labrum in 2002 and missed all of 2003. he signed with the cardinals and had a really, really good stretch from 2004-06, going for a 3.10 era in 645 innings of 139 era+ ball. really, really good. then bone spurs and tj put him out for all but 21 innings in 2007 and 2008. he came back with a 3.02 era in 665 innings of 128 era+.

he's a really good pitcher but there are gaps of time in his career where he was hurt and that hurts his case. he's one of the better postseason pitchers of his time, which is great, but i don't think he has much of a case. he's only thrown 2219 innings, which is more than hall of famers gossage, fingers and sutter to name a few, but they were mostly relief pitchers (gossage and fingers actually started the exact same number of games: 37) and there are a few names in there who i would have to research more to see why they're in (candy cummings, i probably shouldn't google that name at work).

i can't see how carpenter would get in.

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