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02-06-2013, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Zetterberg Era View Post
Bowman lost all of his executive power before the 97 season... Even when he had power he split it three ways with Devellano and Holland. Which begs the question, the people around the team decided to promote which guys and why? Holland was the lead scout from the 80's into the 90's before assuming the GM post in the three headed decisions.

Bowman's GM tenures and front office gigs are far from substantially backed up. He was terrible in Buffalo. He is a great coach but people that believe this notion of Scotty Bowman the genious front office guy make laugh.

He could have done a lot, but I doubt it, the evidence of titles and who has stayed in charge with massive amounts of faith suggest otherwise. Don't forget his issues with Yzerman upon taking charge were believed to have triggered a deal that Devellano would later kill.

Bowman's most celebrated move is usually the Shanahan trade. Interestingly Holland was for it himself.



http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=506567

Notice that trade actually went down when Scotty had lost power, yes he would like the player but this is actually one of Holland's first moves as Detroit GM. It is his stamp on the team, Bowman's first idea was to move Yzerman.... Just saying it is interesting how that has gone over much different over the years. Bowman for sure has a great hockey mind, but checks have been put in place because it does misfire from time to time. When he truly ran the show with total autonomy was in Buffalo, not the greatest moment of his storied hockey career.

I don't think either Ken Holland or Mike Babcock should be in any danger. What they need to do is get on the same page and get a more aggressive game plan going together. Neither guy became an idiot over night, they are smart hockey people and very good at the role each is in with proven track records. They deserve a couple years to figure this out because the replacements are unlikely to come close to what both bring to the table. People can be frustrated that is fine, but wanting either guy gone right now is a bit much.

Honestly, I think it was the combination of the two that made for great trades and roster moves. Bowman was aggressive and good at identifying missing ingredients, or just where players fit. Holland was bolder with Scotty around, imo, and his contract offers seemed to make more sense.

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