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02-06-2013, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Latendresse could've eaten a few less big macs.

Some players are ready and some aren't. RNH, Hall, Eberle, Yak... all those guys have shown they were ready. There will be ups and downs man but those guys are good NHL players already.
Wait you said all players are ready, I thought everyone was Crosby and "relax". Those players are so ready the team has been just as miserable with them in the lineup, how is that possible with 4 Crosby/Yzermans?

Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Yzerman's development wasn't hurt, neither were Sakic's or Lemieux's or Crosby's or most other top stars who started out young with bad teams. And unlike RNH, Hall, Eberle, Schultz and Yak... Yzerman had NOBODY to play with.

And Yzerman's development wasn't linear either btw. There were ups and downs but at the end of the day he became of the best players ever. The Oiler kids are in way better shape than Sakic or Lemieux or Yzerman were. They actually have each other to play with.
Has nothing to do with the conversation unless every player is basically the same player.

Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
So if Price doesn't perform well in the playoffs its because we played him too young? Uh yeah okay... I'm sure he'll be happy to hear that he has some half-assed excuse baked in for him this year if he slumps.
What do you mean "if" if has already been seen it has hurt his playoff work. He might get stronger but that was a big risk and almost ****ed him up mentally.

Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Maybe Paajarvi wasn't ready. Maybe he's a bust. But those other players played extremely well last season and there's absolutely nothing wrong with playing them.

Its not just Crosby though. Again, most top players come into crappy environments... and still succeed. If a player isn't doing well, then you re-evaluate. But I don't see how that's the case here. Yakupov already has 5 or 6 goals. Hall and Eberle look great and so does Schultz. RNH is a little snakebit but even he has 5 or 6 points.

So what's the problem man? The whole thing is a disaster because Paajarvi didn't work out at the age of 21?
You don't seem to have a sweet clue what the argument is. Go back and read again, this time think. Yup every player who doesn't work out has nothing to do with development. Development is over-rated just like getting young players living with established players, you know more than the pittsburgh penguins or almost every organization in the league.

Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
They had the same model. 4 straight years of top ten picks (two top five and a number one) and 6 top tens (three top five) in the span of 8 years.

But yeah, let's pretend like Detroit just woke up one day and decided to be great. Let's ignore the fact that they used to be the Dead Things...

And twenty years from now, you can pretend like the Oilers never tanked too. And you can tell people... let's just be like Edmonton.
Detroit is well known for not only seasoning their young players but surrounding them with more than just garbage. If you think Detroit and Edmonton are following the same steps to prospect development you are out to lunch.

Oh look RNH is injured, relax right? All those other decent players Edmonton has will surely take the load...oh wait.

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