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02-07-2013, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stars and Bolts View Post
During the dead puck era (1995-2004), much has been made about the intense rivalry between the Avs and Wings, as well as how they were the elite teams along with the Devils. However, it seems like the Stars often get lost in the discussion.

A close look at things shows that Dallas was often right there with Colorado and Detroit.

#1 seed in the Western Conference:
1. Detroit: 4 (95, 96, 02, 04)
2. Dallas: 3 (98, 99, 03)
3. Colorado: 2 (97, 01)
The other winner was St. Louis in 2000 (President's trophy as well)

President's trophies:
1. Detroit: 4 (95, 96, 02, 04)
2. Colorado: 2 (97, 01) and Dallas: 2 (98 and 99)

Conference champions:
1. Detroit: 4 (95, 97, 98, 02)
2. Colorado: 2 (96 and 01) and Dallas 2 (99 and 00)

Of course, Dallas only won the cup once (1999) which is why people may not include them in the likes of Colorado, Detroit, and New Jersey.

Playoff series against each other:
Colorado vs Detroit: 3-2 Avs
Colorado vs Dallas: 2-0 Stars
Dallas vs Detroit: 1-0 Wings

Did you consider the Stars to be the 3rd wheel in the Avs/Wings rivalry? Also, do they belong in the same discussion as the Avs, Wings, and Devils during this era?
I think they're "scissors." The problem for Dallas was that Detroit was "rock," by virtue of having the most overall success of the three teams during that era. So when people talk about these teams, they typically start with Detroit, who had the most Cups and regular season success. They then move to Colorado, the "paper" to Detroit's rock, who, although they didn't have as much overall success as Detroit, still managed to get the best of them more times than not in head to head contests. It's only then that you get to Dallas, who had success in the head to head against Colorado, but was always kind of a little brother to Detroit (losing their one head to head playoff meeting, and being stocked with former Detroit management who were clearly looking to the "Detroit model" to run things).

Even if everything else stayed the same, if Colorado beats Detroit in '97 (and was thus "rock"), I think you hear more about Dallas (who then becomes paper to Detroit's scissors).

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