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02-07-2013, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DKH View Post
Love him like the family dog- and before my sometimes over-the-top like/defense (fill in the blank but remember kids read this board) of Knight and Sobotka, there was Bergeron. Been on the Patrice bandwagon since Kirk told me to relax over the pick on 2003 draft day that it was a very good one, he just wasn't one of those guys a lot of people knew about.

I'd like to see Claude if he already hasn't reminded him he is a pretty good offensive player. It's great he won the Selke, he certainly deserved it, but its possible his mindset is leaning to much to this area of the game. I been thinking this lately and when Seguin got flipped off to Krejci's line Seguin went out and was flying around the ice reacting like a kid getting home from a family dress up event and taking the tie and suit jacket of and hitting the backyard.

Come late April I expect to see a dozen goals and twice that assists- he'll go on a run, but he has more to offer now. The first shift with Horton was fanstastic and Bergeron was right there so maybe I should back off a bit, but the past week I been wondering about the Seguin-Bergeron pairing, and Bergeron being to conservative.

Bergeron to me is one of those players who can actually have their cake and eat it to' as they say; he can win the Selke and still be an offensive player- and with Marchand and Seguin he has legit top 6 talent so I expect more than a 5 goal prorated pace.
This is a really good, though-provoking post.

As far as Bergy and Seguin not clicking to this point in the season, I think we have seen them work well together in the past, and they have created some opportunities for each other this year, but they just haven't been able to finish. I always thought Bergy and Seguin were a good match for each other because they could think the game at the same level, and I think we saw some of that last year. So, I'm not sure that it's really the two of them together that's the issue, but I do lend some credence to your point about Bergy and perhaps that line, thinking too defensively when they are on the ice.

He is such a great player that he can have his cake and eat it too, as you said, but at a certain point, it seems counterproductive to have your best offensive player (Seguin) and arguably your best offensive line, also be your best shutdown line. If they are matching up against the other team's best, then they are going to be thinking a bit more conservatively to begin with, based on what Claude preaches about team defense. There is no question that it has to take away from Bergy's offensive game a bit.

To make an analogy, it's kind of like a catcher that is great at handling the staff in baseball. Just like Varitek used to, they have to put so much time into their pitchers, that sometimes their own offensive game can suffer.

I don't have a problem with Bergy filling that role on this team, as he is the best in the league at it, and it's an important role to be filled, but should Seguin be tied to his hip, considering you probably want him thinking a bit more offensively?

At one time, I think it served its purpose to have Seguin on that line so that Bergy could "babysit" him as it were, and try to cover up for his defensive deficiencies, but I think Seguin has progressed to the point where you can trust him on a more offensive-minded line. And I think the Bruins need that kind of line to help carry them, especially in games against tough opponents and elite goaltenders. Goals in those games are tough to come by, and sometimes you just need your best skill players to make a play for you.

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