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02-07-2013, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish on The Sand View Post
I don't think its fair to penalize Vizquel for his offensive production by basing it relative to his peers at his position. Vizquel faced much stronger competition at the position than Smith did, but that does not make Smith's offensive contributions greater. This is a perfect example of why positional value offensively should not be factored into WAR.
Then use adjusted OPS in order to take into account league offence and park factors. Smith posted a five point advantage in OPS+ over Vizquel during the course of their careers, a fairly reasonable advantage. He also posted four seasons in which he posted to a 100 OPS+ or greater during a season compared to just two for Vizquel.

During Vizquel's best offensive seasons between 1996 and 2004 he posted an OPS+ of 93. During Smith's best offensive seasons between 1984 and 1992 he posted an OPS+ of 99. So there is still significant evidence, even taking into account adjusted factors that take into consideration the respective offensive totals of each player's era, for Smith to be considered the better offensive player by a fair margin. And that's taking into account the fact that Vizquel had stronger offensive competition at the position than Ozzie did when he played.

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