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02-07-2013, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by McRanger View Post
The only times Havlat played with lousy players was the first season in Chicago and the times he got booted off of Koivu's line in Minny because the two hated each other. Alfredsson plays the point on the PP in Ott. Or at least he used to. When he was healthy Havlat was on that first PP unit.
Havlat was 6th in PP TOI/PG with the Sens in 03/04, his best statistical year with them. 2nd Unit PP time after Bondra acquisition. He never really got a chance to break out until he was traded to Chicago. Koivu and Havlat were obviously not a match due to both of them being primarily playmakers. Minnesota didn't have any depth players after Koivu and Havlat played with even worse garbage in Chicago. No different situation then Nash, both put up equivalent point totals, but I'd argue Havlat elevated the play of his linemates much more in his prime years.

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Aside from a handful of games this year, Nash has never played a single shift with a legit first liner. When Ray Whitney and Antoine Vermette are the highlights, that's scary. He has also spent every shift against top defenders, who basically only had him to stop.

Really, there is no comparison.
Ray Whitney is absolutely a legitimate first liner in this league and has been in his career. He has a higher career PPG than Nash himself, yet he is considered a player who wasn't good enough for Nash? lol.

Carter, Prospal, Federov aren't slouches either, they are all good hockey players.

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