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02-08-2013, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield View Post
Hockey IQ was never Greene's problem, it was lack of the ability to skate or pass. He's never come very far in that, he is still a below average skater and below average first pass. That's why is no more than a bottom pairing physical defenseman.

Ellerby's game is not in any way the same as Greene, besides a lack of offense. He is a big body, but does not use it as he should all the time. And skating is his strength, compared to Greene where it was his weakness.

This is a good bottom pairing pickup for this year, but it'll be interesting to see where he fits long term. Not sure if I would want Ellerby or Martinez above bottom pairing moving forward...Ellerby might have to compete with Muzzin to be the #7 next year with Drewiske gone..
One of us must be confused then, because I remember much differently.

I remember the knock on Greene was that he lacked IQ, would take dumb penalties, and would care more about making the big hit as opposed to being positionally sound. And that he had zero offense.

Aside from the skating, he doesn't sound too different than Greene.

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