Thread: Homer's Odyssey
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02-11-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Garbage Goal View Post
Not really.

So, in five seasons, we've had one impressive regular season and one tainted SCF appearance. Even if you count the conference finals appearance that's still only two deep playoff runs.

Also, in a league where literally more then half the teams make the playoffs, do not tell me just making the playoffs is commendable. It's not.
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Originally Posted by Psuhockey View Post
5 straight years in the playoffs since he took over full time . Only Boston, Washington , Pittsburgh, San Jose, and Detroit have been in the playoffs every year since that time.
4 times in the 2nd round of the playoffs the last five years. Only Detroit has done that.
2 times in the conference finals that last five years: Chicago, Detroit, San Jose, and Pittsburgh have done that.
1 Stanley Cup appearance. 8 total teams including the Flyers made it in that time with 5 different winners.
So getting into the playoffs for five straight years is not as easy as it looks being only 5 other teams have done it. Only Detroit made it past the 1st round of the playoffs four times in the last five years so that is definitely not easy or standard or however else you want to dismiss it as. And only 4 other teams have had in your book two deep playoff runs in the last 5 years. So no matter how you cut it, the Flyers have been top 5 in the league under Holmgren. That's elite.

The problem with this entire thread is that most are comparing Holmgren in a bubble against an imaginary GM that doesn't exist. Saying he wasted a pick or paid too much for player; that these things if not done would have produce much better results is all conjucture and hindsight. Against his real life peers, he is elite. The record above shows that.

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