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02-12-2013, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DAChampion View Post
Compared to the zero we got by keeping Sourray.
We did try to re-sign Souray, and if Gainey was willing to negotiate during the season we likely would have re-signed him. But the point I was trying to make was that people make it seem as if trading Souray would've netted us a great prospect like Bobby Ryan and that's highly unlikely. We would probably be in a pretty similar situation as we are right now. If he had another mid-20s Higgins/Kostitsyn it wouldn't make a huge difference.

Originally Posted by DAChampion View Post
It's not pushing anything back.

Right now, with this weak Habs team, we know with quasi-absolute certainty that we won't win the cup in 2013 or 2014. The next 1.5 years of Gionta does not increase our odds of winning, because multiplying any number by zero yields zero.

However, if we acquire young roster players and cap space and we move up from drafting 9th overall to 3rd overall by playing AHLers, we increase our odds for the 2015-2020 cup contention window.
We don't have a zero percent chance though, it's more like 1-2%. How do you know we won't re-sign Gionta after his contract ends, if he's still putting up around 25 goals and 50pts then it's quite likely we will try to re-sign him. In fact he's good enough defensively that he could transition to the 3rd line once he slips out of the top 6 (Depending on cap hit of course). Not to mention he's a great mentor for Gallagher. Right now Gallagher is sheltered and producing, if he has to ride shotgun on Plec's line he would more than likely struggle which could hurt his development.

Originally Posted by DAChampion View Post
Most people on these boards state the core as:

Price, Galchenyuk, Pacioretty, Subban;

3 of those 4 are rebuilding/tanking pieces, sort of in the case of Price. We would not have drafted Galchenyuk if Gauthier had kept Gill, Kostitsyn, and Cammalleri.

Some of us want to add one more piece, a Drouin-type player.
Price was luck more than anything, but this is kinda of my point. We've never tried to do a 'proper' rebuild, every year we've tried for the playoffs, we've traded numerous 2nd round picks for rentals, we've let UFAs go for nothing, etc... Yet we've drafted a franchise goalie, 2 first-line players, and a top-pairing defenceman within the last 7 years. What's the point of tanking if we can get a great core anyways?

When we are out of the playoffs (Last year) or if a player no longer fits (Rivet, Cammalleri) then we should trade them away for picks/prospects. But I draw the line when we are in the playoffs, and talking about players that are contributing.

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