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02-13-2013, 11:59 AM
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Son Oncle Jerry
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Originally Posted by hototogisu View Post
Similarly, there are players of Kassian's ilk on waivers several times a year, many of whom who could be plucked from the AHL right now if we were so inclined. Kassian is good, but he's not head-and-shoulders above everyone else, or "THE GUY" that we need to pick up. We can fill that need without giving up anything, if we want to.

Ironically, what you're saying about Weber could just as easily be applied to Kassian. You're saying "it's not that Kassian isn't serviceable, it's that the Wild have too many similar guys ahead of him". Change it to Weber and the Habs and you have the exact same situation. So if Kassian has value by those rules, so does Weber.
Weber could really be serviceable to a team such as Detroit, who lost depth and has injuries on their blue line. That being said, the Habs, a team already counting on players such as Kaberle, Markov, Diaz, Subban... Weber has close to no value for us and offers absolutely no diversity.

Are there a lot of players like Kassian on the waivers in a year? No. Simply because there are not that many heavyweights available out there.

The fact that Weber can have some value on another team and might be appreciated elsewhere has no importance and doesn't change the fact that Weber, on this Montreal team, is just more of the same. And with the future on the blueline, it's obvious Weber is going to get dealt at some point. And looking back at his only "performance" this year (if you want to call it like that), and the fact he just doesn't play, there comes a time where you have to take a decision and do what's best for your team.

You can always say "Well we can wait..." The fact is, this season is only 48 games long, and the other 11 games against divisional opponents will likely determine whether or not we're making the playoffs. And with our current blend of players and our current approach, we're 2-5 against them.

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I don't think Weber's "value" is purely defined by what other teams in the league might offer in a trade, however. Defensive depth has value to the Habs. We've been ridiculously healthy so far this season, but I think we all have lived through the nightmares of past seasons. Weber is here, he's familiar with the system, he's plug and play ready if anybody goes down. That's part of his value.

Another part of his value is for next season. We now *know* that Kaberle is gone. Bouillon may or may not be. But we've got one RFA we can qualify for a bit under $1M in Weber, an affordable depth option for next season too. There is not a clear indication that any kids in the minors are going to be ready to come up, and no guarantees that a suitable free agent could be signed. So again, Weber has some internal value.

Not huge value, of course. But still something aside from a 3rd-7th round pick or whatever his trade value to other teams is.
Weber is nothing like defensive depth. He's redundant, and offers nothing more than what we have. You wanna add a guy that is big and can clear the crease? Absolutely. That's what I call depth, because the guy gives your team different elements. Weber? Sincerly, the way he's playing, I'm not even sure he'd break the top-4 in Hamilton right now.

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